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    An explanation of our fine game.

    Firstly, the dear Lovers, my personal invention and favourite children. After landing the role of serial killer in the last game, I was apprehensive. How the hell do you win with a serial killer? Well, you don't, because the mafia are filthy cheats who use hax to find out your identity But really, it's ungodly impossible. So I decided to buff them it up a bit, giving it elements of the mafia. The doctor was just to reduce the chance of them being wiped out in the night before they got a chance to get going, like I was in the last game. Shame it didn't work!

    What, no Cop?! No. Absolutely not. I hate the damn role. (don't take this as an indicator of it not being in the next game! qwerty probably likes it. I dunno) Guilty or innocent? Too easy. Too god damned easy by far. I like roles that make you think. Like Gunsmith. Why does Person X have a gun? Or Watcher/Tracker. Why did Person X target Person Y? We also included lots of roles with night targetting for this reason, like the Hider as opposed to a Bulletproof townie, which in some ways amounts to the same thing.

    Del Murder hit on the exact reason why we have two roles with roleblocking abilities. Yes, it was to try to offset some of the other night activities. We also gave the town other power roles, like Vigilante and Masons, to combat the threat posed by two killing factions as opposed to just the one.

    We also gave the mafia a heck of a lot of power to face off against the threats they faced. First of all the roles of the mafia themselves. Obviously the Ninja was the true "godfather", being investigation proof from all three roles. Goon was because we felt they'd be overpowered with another special role. Cop was supposed to be the thing which gave them most of their power. Edgar could've uncovered the two lovers, the usurper and the miller, and then used them to roleclaim cop in the thread. We also gave them a few helpful roles in the town, like the Saulus, the Usurper (this would help them if she had killed Quina because A) the town would think the godfather dead, and B) X amount of days worth of vote history with no mafia connection!) And yes, the JESTER. I know Del and Miriel think that doesn't benefit anybody, but yes, it benefits the mafia in my opinion. Someone acting like a damn jackass, drawing attention away from them has helped them in previous games. So we just made it official.

    And finally, the Nexus. Apparently a lot of you hate that role. Okay! Criticism accepted! We just wanted to make things a bit funnier and crazier. "Oh man, screwed over because of THAT?" but apparently none of you seem to find that funny like we do. Well, Dolentrean did, but he's the Nexus.

    EDIT: Oh I forgot, we also wanted some subplots. Like the [color=blue]Survivor[/color and the Usurper - just as a fun distraction from who kills/lynches who. So yeah. And you all know about why we gave the Survivor those special daily conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmark View Post
    Silly Mafia, thinking Irvine was a cop. To think I almost killed your don.
    Godfather can't be night killed though. Well except against the Wannabe Usurper.

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    I wasn't trying to be a Jester, I was trying to die so I could stop playing. xD!
    Ah geez I thought it was part of your strategy. XD
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    Psy I woulda loved this game... If you didn't hint roles. So, even if the next game has no vanilla townies, it will be good if you don't make the same mistake twice.

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    Okay. Feedback accepted. We wanted to try something new, and okay, lesson learned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahamut2000X View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Denmark View Post
    Silly Mafia, thinking Irvine was a cop. To think I almost killed your don.
    Godfather can't be night killed though. Well except against the Wannabe Usurper.
    Actually, I could have been night killed by anyone with a night kill role.

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    What's the next theme?

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    The mafia would have been nothing without Miriel.

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    I think they could've won if Auron hadn't been killed by an unlucky shot from Freya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
    The mafia would have been nothing without Miriel.
    WHAT? I take great offense to that. I would've dominated if you hadn't played.

    EDIT: Now that the game's over I can say this:

    Demon Dude, how does it feel to get HUMILATED by me xD

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    The only role I didn't like was Jester.

    I hate that role, oh so much. It needs to die. Horribly and painfully.

    And yes, stop the role hinting too. Otherwise, good job.

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    Sorry, Psycho, but I don't think you gave Mafia side enough power to balance out the fact that there were so many power roles on the town's side.

    Godfather was useless and only there to trick the Mafia into thinking there was a cop. A lot of the Mafia's strategy depended on the idea that there was a cop, and putting in Godfather just made Mafia confused and focused on the wrong stuff. Mafia cop wasn't enough to stand up against a ENTIRE town full of power roles. Maybe if you had left the Mafia cop in tact rather than severely limiting its powers, it might have been more balanced. But as it was, there was like a 4/18 shot of getting any useful information. Innocent, innocent, innocent, well of course most of the townies are gonna be innocent! What would have really been helpful was if Mafia cop was able to detect the power roles of the various citizens.

    I love the idea of Lovers and I think it was a really unique role that you guys came up with.

    Nexus, I think it's obvious you guys know how I feel about Nexus. It was pretty smart to put in a bunch of tracking abilities as opposed to one cop. I don't mind the Jester's role in relation to how the role helps out Mafia, but I think it's unfair for a player to be put into a game, only to die as soon as they possibly can. It's really not fair to that player. If they played the role properly, they don't even get to enjoy the game. That's my biggest beef with Jester. I know that if I got that role, I would refuse to play it right.

    I do however, really like the posting regulations you gave to certain roles. Makes for a fun game I think, to limit when or how often a person can post.

    Whoever takes over the game after Qwerty and Psycho, please don't try and "out do" them in terms of the roles in play. I don't want to keep playing in games that are just nuts for the sake of being nuts, even if that may be fun once or twice. It takes a LOT to try and balance out a game properly. So please, try and do it right! I know Qwerty and Psycho spent a lot of time trying to make sure that they get a balanced game. Whoever takes over next should do the same.

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    tbh I worried that it was the mafia who were overpowered when this game began. They lost because of bad luck on losing Auron and the lovers whacking Ingus, poor night choices (did you guys seriously investigate Ramza? honestly, wtf) and Quina following Fran around like a lovesick puppy when it came to voting.

    I stand by my belief that the game was balanced!

    But I would definitely like the next one to be more usual, with Vanilla Town. In some ways this shows people why VT are necessary, and maybe they should play normally if they get that role in future, or not play at all.

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    What the hell where those investigations suppose to do for me? By Day 3 the lovers where already gone, USELESS.

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    Really? I thought I read it way back at the start of this on the flash that God Fathers were immune to night kills. Though not like we followed the flash roles really. >.>

    All in all a fun first game. Completely chaotic. Just the way things should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    What the hell where those investigations suppose to do for me? By Day 3 the lovers where already gone, USELESS.
    They were gone because you lot lynched one of them and killed the other one, so it's entirely your own fault. Oh, and there was still the Usurper and the Miller out there, which you convieniently forgot to mention. What were they supposed to do for you? Do you really need to ask what you do with a guilty result? Honestly? Imagine if you had found one, and then publically announced that you were the cop and that X was guilty. I doubt you'd be complaining then...

    Useless? No. Used badly? I think so.

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