Uk Meetup 2008. ROUND TWO!

[Cookie]

NO, THIS IS THE BIG DEAL

No, parents are more worried that these "people from the internet" could be old men who just want to do bad things to their son or daughter, actually, so it is a BIG DEAL

Please explain who the big deal is for. Honestly. The entire gist of your complaint is that you have no faith in your parents (which I find terrible) and want to do things behind their back. How is that better? Is it protects you from any "shame"? We've made it clear we have no problem showing you what we look like. Hell, we even met someone's parents. We have no problem, we're not trying to do these things in secret.
The disclaimer is designed to protect us, it protects our rights, it acknowledges that your parents are your guardians and allows us not toworry that we're gonna get accused of whisking you away from them without their consent.

I know that my parents would never even consider allowing me to meet up with, in their opinion, "complete strangers" because they think that "anything could happen".

(I like to point out here that I first came to these meet-ups when I was just 17. I didn't get raped, nor did I get abused.)
I'm sorry, but your attitude is childish and single-minded. You prefer things covered up, in secret, at the risk of people with jobs, degrees, relationships = RESPONSIBILITIES.
Have you seen Mr Murat, concerning the Maddie McCann case? His life has been splashed on all the papers, his life is ruined. Best bit: He might not have done anything. An extreme example, but how easy stuff can be ruined. Did you know charges relating children don't go away? Explain how my fianceé (who is aware of this meet-up and may even go) will feel with her fiance with a child abuse accusation on his record?
By the way, if you personally think I am an old man looking to perv, here's me and my fianceé:

I am 20. I actually did child-care (and therefore vetted by the Goverment.) I go to University. I have a normal job. I live with my fianceé. I like to think of myself as normal, and happy.

Now you tell me that you would prefer to keep a "nice" relationship with your parents rather than protect my wonderful life. Some of these people involved are my friends, my actual IRL friends who meet up for birthdays, anniversaries, get-togethers. I would fight tooth and nail to protect them from getting their lives ruined. That's what friends do.
I know some people here have complained about these disclaimers (which is laughable, considering its a tick-box and an signature) because they seem too much, for what is supposed to be a fun get-together. Well, I'm sorry, but I like me, I love my fianceé and (in a platonic way) I love my friends. Their lives matter more then your (IMO) silly attitude concerning your parents.

As such, this is a big deal.

I think you're getting a bit carried away. I can see where Zeldy is coming from, if I asked my parents if I could go and stay in a hotel with five or six men that I'd never met before, they'd be at worst be mildly concerned. Leading on from this, the meet-up isn't very appealing to anybody that would need a consent form. You don't seem like a nice person tbh, let alone somebody that I'd want to spend a long weekend with (or however long it's going to be), seeing as you can't handle a fifteen year old girl without resorting to name calling and throwing a hissy fit. Teenagers are pretty well known for being a bit moody and argumentative, which I'd reckon you know about, since you were one. Anyway, nothing appealing for the youth, since it's all people over the legal drinking age, and the only memories I recall reading from you guys is "oh yeah last year so and so got drunk and did something comical" etc. Not that I think anybody underage would even think of asking any of you for alcohol (I wouldn't) it seems like for the most part, you guys are going to be drunk.

Also, I understand that you're not a smurfing paedophile. You've mentioned it 9001 times already, and I really really understand. I know you're not organizing this in hopes of molesting somebody, and if I came, and somebody accused you of trying to abduct or rape me, I'd just tell them you weren't (unless you were, but you wouldn't, because you have a job, girlfriend and you're not a paedophile!), it's as simple as that. Using Maddie McCann as an example is pretty poor as well, she's about 6 years old, we're not. It's not our fault that whoever took the photos for whichever papers you're talking about did this, but that's just the way it is. It's a big story and people are concerned about the girl, it's vaguely related to this "issue" and completely out of our control.

Anyway, not trying to argue or anything, but you don't seem to be going about it the right way for someone who's a "veteran" of these meet ups and is helping to organize or whatever.

[Zeldy]

For godsake, I did NOT call you, or anybody on this forum a perv, hence why I even put "people from the internet" in quotation marks, I didn't put "people from EoFF" I put "internet" signifying every single person who has ever used the internet.

Way to think the world revolves around you, Jack, I never even mentioned your name in that once. The internet is a very unreliable source, THAT is what I meant, there have been millions of cases were people have met up with someone who has been claiming to be 15 or 16 when they are infact 30 odd, Im not saying that any of you are, but like I said "IN MY PARENTS OPINION". If anything, you should be complimented, I even considered meeting up with any of you with that still in mind as I know that no one is like that here, but my parents wouldn't allow it.
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[Raebus]

Never mind this thread and this meet up, Zeldy. Remember the other big plan!

Jack sure went off on a digression then! Haha.

[Psychotic]

and (in a platonic way) I love my friends.

Gay.

the only memories I recall reading from you guys is "oh yeah last year so and so got drunk and did something comical" etc.

No no no you don't understand. They get drunk, then we get to exploit that for our own ends! Jack doesn't know it yet, but not only is he pregnant with my child, he is also signed up with the French Foreign Legion.

Hey Zeldy stop calling me a paedophile okay I just want to stroke your hair and keep you in my room. IS THAT SUCH A CRIME?

[Rye]

Hey Zeldy stop calling me a paedophile okay I just want to stroke your hair and keep you in my room. IS THAT SUCH A CRIME?

xDDD

I have to sympathize with the younger EoFFers on this though, a bit. I can understand how the above-age EoFFers want to watch their back with their forms, and that's reasonable. I would be nervous as well. I don't even like to DRIVE people who are below the driving age without their parents knowing, because their my responsibility when they're in my car, and even though I think I'm a capable driver, parents would still be nervous knowing that a new driver is driving their child. So I can see where you guys are coming from. When you're responsible for someone, things can be worrying.

But as for what Jack said, I'm sorry, but some people just have ridiculously strict parents. And it's even worse when you're a girl. It's not just that you'd be embarrassed to ask, and I think that's what insulted Cookie and Zeldy the most. If I even told my parents I talk to people I don't know online, let alone asked to visit people from the internet, my internet access would be taken away, without hyperbole or exaggeration.

I have nothing to do with this. I'm just trying to help make things a little clearer, since it's probably hard for one group to see the other group's argument in this situation.

[Psychotic]

Ugh, Jess, gtfo you 17 year old hag. Can't you see I got me some underaged armpits to sniff?

[Rye]

But I'm only half-legal! Oh, I miss my jailbait days. Can't you let me have them back, for just one more day? You can stroke and sniff my hair! :kaocry2:

[Psychotic]

Shut it, grandma. What the hell's got you so excited anyway? Is it the new brand of prune juice? Man, I knew we should never have stopped buying Old Wrinkly.

[Raebus]

I can imagine our Manchester meet up to be rather extravagant and epic with just the few trusted and quite frankly, quite awesome members. AMIRITE OR AMIRITE?

@

Zeldy.

[Psychotic]

I don't know. Will there be a buffet?

[Raebus]

Something far more awesome, up there with the gods.

[Psychotic]

Hmm. Better than a buffet. A pony? Is it a pony? It's a pony, isn't it? Could I pet the pony? I love ponies!

From creepy to mentally retarded in 3 posts. That's the Psychotic we know and love!

[Zeldy]

Yeah, a meetup for the "children" of the board It's simply a group of friends meeting up making it our own responsibility, not linked to EoFF before you start spazzing out about 'CONSENT FORMS!!!'

[Raebus]

I have suspicions of you being a young boy trapped inside a mans body. A young boy with a pony obsession which technically makes you a girl.

@ Pyschotic. ;_;


Zeldy: Yep. :] It shall rock so much.

[Psychotic]

Yeah, a meetup for the "children" of the board

Children, eh? Hmm. Hmmmmm. Zeldy, just curious: Would you be able to recognise the smell of chloroform before it became all too late?

I have suspicions of you being a young boy trapped inside a mans body. A young boy with a pony obsession which technically makes you a girl.

It would explain so much!