Mafia V: Official game thread (Day 7 - Game Over. Town Win!)

[[M] Colette]

Cyan:

The Mafia kill was obviously blocked because if it wasn't, either there'd have been two kills or Ingus wouldn't have been killed.

I agree. I have three theories on this.
1. The Game mods determine night actions based on what time they receive word of them. If there is a Vigilante and if she did kill Ingus AND if the Mafia also targeted Ingus then the Vigilante's action went first, thereby blocking the Mafia kill and, while killing Ingus, keeping him on our side.

2. One protective person, let's say a doctor, protected Ingus. This protection counteracted the first attempt at a kill which was probably Mafia, seeing as how the Saulus didn't become a Mafia. The second kill attempt by our Vigilante went through. I highly doubt this happened. Ingus was pretty suspicious throughout Day 1, so people with protective powers probably wouldn't have used them on Ingus. In fact, I'd argue that everyone with a protective power probably used it on themselves since it's very difficult to decide whom to protect.

3. The Mafia attempted to kill someone who has a protective power and used it on themselves OR attempted to kill someone with protective power placed over them while the Vigilante

4. The Mafia are slow and didn't attempt to make a kill. Ordinarily I'd say that this idea is pretty irrelevant, but we do have quite a few players who aren't very involved.

Scenarios 2 and 3 are the most probable, I think.

On to the question of the Insane Cop/Cultist Leader/Jester. I don't think there's going to be a Jester in this game because that's just tooooo easy. I'm thinking it's going to be the Cultist Leader or Insane Cop. That being said, if you're a Cop I strongly urge you to compare your nightly investigation to the arguments in this thread. If a person's status comes back as good, look for holes in their arguments, lies or contradictions. If a person's status comes back as bad, look for the absence of the above. All cops should immediately begin to determine whether or not they are the Insane Cop.

While I understand the basis of your non Cyan suspicion, new edgar, but I think we should address him.

Cyan had brought forth the rydia issue. Personally, I don't think rydia hadn't done anything wrong, they were just stupid. Look at all the previous games, there was always someone doing something odd, hypno did it, BoB did ect ect. I saw no reason as to why they would be an immediate threat. Yet Cyan, during his analysis throws in Ingus, who at the time I believed to be the townie he was. Also they brought up vivi. They made a point on how the beginning vote of vivi's was suspicious. Yet how the suspicion shouldn't be held.

If you look at the list, two confirmed townies and one "?" A mafia might want to throw in two townies and at least one mafia. It was the people who choose to believe cyan. If they picked vivi instead and got a mafia member then cyan would have support. Could vivi be a mafia member as well as the possible Cyan? Yet vivi himself hasn't done much to earn that suspicion just yet.

I can understand why you'd be suspicious of me because of my persecution of Rydia. However, I stand by my arguments and so did the majority of everyone else. She did behave in a way antithetical to townie-dom.

However, you are a liar. Please refer to the bold portion of your quote. You claim that I maintain Vivi is a suspicious character. I never said anything like that. My exact words on Vivi were as follows.

VIVI

I think Vivi is just employing the easiest strategy at this time. Vote for someone. That isn't suspicious, it's just what you have to do. What IS suspicious are those that are voting for Vivi and talking about how suspicious he is. What? How can you be suspicious if you haven't really done anything? Lots of people in the past have voted randomly on day 1. Hell, most people vote randomly on day 1 and a lot of people in this thread voted randomly before Ignus, Edgar and others started talking way a lot. So why is Vivi suspicious? I say s/he isn't. I say the people voting are looking for a scapegoat. This also applies to votes for Irvine and Aeris. Aeris hasn't even done anything! What's so suspicious about them? Nothing. This my suspicions for Freya, Faris, Auron and Terra.

My question is, why on earth would you lie about that? I don't think it's even possible for you to say "Cyan thought Vivi was suspicious, but that that suspicion shouldn't hold" given the actual content of my post. There is no wiggle room there. So why are you trying to tell everyone I held Vivi in suspicion when, in fact, I never did. The only people who have any need to lie are anti-Town. Welcome to my #1 suspect.

Cyan - As mentioned by Firion, Cyan started the voting for Rydia with a bunch of evidence that seven of us, not knowing any better, followed nigh-blindly. I was one of them, of course. Now that Rydia has turned out to be an oddly-posting Townie, Cyan's arguments look more suspicious, as Firion pointed out.

I can't help it if I'm persuasive and my arguments actually made sense. You were the ones "follow[ing] nigh-blindly". Make your own decisions! I made mine.

Right now, this is very tenuous. Firion is definitely my #1 suspect, but I don't have enough conviction to lynch 'em. Fran is also a little suspect (and way obvious in their posting style, lol.) but I have no conviction on that.