Mafia V: Official game thread (Day 7 - Game Over. Town Win!)

[[M] Apollo]

Ramza:

Of all the people who are actively posting, "The Ramza" has been the one who has most quick-votes, random-votes, vote hopping, and bandwagoning. Why is it that I'm the only one suspicious of him? Is it cause you guys think that his erratic behavior is due to someone who is simply a poor player? Cause obviously, despite his erratic voting and posting, he's survived this long. And he's just gonna keep on surviving, I bet.

Biggest suspects to me are:

Ramza (even though I feel like the rest of you will keep ignoring Ramza as a potential scum)
Edge (his most recent posts are very weird)
Edgar (I don't know if I buy his cop roleclaim)

People like Cid, Quina, Riona, Aeris I feel like I can't get a good read on.

At this point, I feel like the following people really need to post more:

Vivi
Firion

Oh yes, The Ramza vote hops a lot and randomly and bandwagons alright.

First Vote, The Ramza voted Ingus.
Changed vote to Barret before day was over. The Ramza voted Barret even though no one else had voted for him.

Second day The Ramza keeps The Ramza's vote on Barret.

Third day The Ramza remains on Barret until Rinoa and Faris speak out. The Ramza also decides that Barret Lying about Fran's vote was too silly for a Mafia to do. Why would one Lie about something that benefits no one, and yet attracts attention to themselves? This made The Ramza think Barret had just been smurfing up, so The Ramza didn't want to vote due to his error.


Fourth day day, The Ramza is the first to voice suspicion against you Fran. Then The Ramza votes after someone else confirms their suspicion of you. My vote stayed all through night 4.

In short, The Ramza has not Bandwaggoned until Mog. In addition, The Ramza has changed his vote twice, others have changed more.

For this entire game, the only reason aside from "Just because" anyone has had for suspecting me has been based on something only slightly less dumb, and that's that Fran and I have voted for the same people. That's because I think she's the most useful out of anyone in this game as far as deductive reasoning goes.

Um The Ramza stated more on you then that.

The Ramza brought up how both you and Fran came at The Ramza for suggesting a possobility. The two of you had claimed that The Ramza was spreading misinformation, regardless of the fact I never claimed anything to be definite.

However, Fran did do that. She claimed that her scenario was exactly what happened. You went along with it. Regardless of the fact that there was no more evidence to support that then the Idea the Mafia and one other faction targeted the same person.

As shown, you blame The Ramza for spreading misinformation. However, both of you are saying untrue things right now.

Tranlsation:
1) I've only changed my vote twice, and I already explained why both times I did it.

The Ramza thinks it is time to end this.

While The Ramza is suspicious of Barret still, why would he lie about Fran's vote? A plain old lie like that wouldn't exactly help him, as it's easy to track back. The Ramza is starting to think he's just screwing up a lot when reading over everything, so The Ramza no longer think of him as a suspect.

The Ramza apologizes to Mog.

##unvote: Barret
##vote: Mog

Translation: Barrets lie about Fran changing votes wouldn't help him at all. It was far to obvious, so I think it's likely he just smurfed up somewhere when reading through the posts.

Sorry Mog, but this day needs to end.

2) The only time I bandwaggoned was on Mog. For Ingus, Barret, and Fran, I was among the first to vote or voice suspicion on them. See above quote to see my reasons for not voting Barret.

3) Quina's claim that voting with fran is the only reason stated to be suspicious of him is flat out false, as I had previosly mentioned other reasons why he is a supsect.

Well, The Ramza still thinks Fran or Quina are Mafia. Possibly Both.

While The Ramza's voting record isn't exactly the best either, (Having voted Barret night 1 and 2, Mog on night 3,) Fran's isn't exactly so pretty either. Every night, with the exception of night 2, she voted for a confirmed Citzen.

The exact same thing can be said for Quina. Also note, every night Fran and Quina voted together.

The other note is that Fran and Qiuna were both trying to discredit The Ramza's idea, even though The Ramza never claimed it as a fact, simply a possobility.

Fran and Quina seem to be working a lot together from what The Ramza has seen.

The Ramza shall also note that not all Mafia are likely to vote together. Remember Auron? He never voted for the same person that Quina and Fran did. Also, the ones who they voted for, Both The Ramza and Ingus, had come dangeriously close to a lynching. Mafia are likely to vote for those who are almost going to be lynched.

The Ramza guesses either one or both of these two are Mafia.

Translation:
1) Fran and Quina have voted together every day.

2) 2 out of three of their votes have been for a Confirmed Citzen.

3) They've always voted for people likely to get lynched.

4) If they are both Mafia, it is likely that Auron was the one member they assigned to vote seperately from the rest to avoid connection.

5) Both Fran and Quina were instantly opposed to the possoblity I presented Day two, and quickly tried to vote me off.

6) Between Fran and Quina, either one of them, or both of them, are likely Mafia.

The Three I bolded are 3 reasons to vote Quina outside of the only two reason he claimed that have been used against him.

4) Quina originally voted for me, claiming I was spreading misinformation, regardless of the fact I simply voiced a possibility, while he and Fran said that I was wrong and they were right, even though there was no evidence suggesting one of the two possibilities was more likely then the other.

5) Both these posts from Fran and Quina are flat out lying.