Mafia V: Official game thread (Day 7 - Game Over. Town Win!)

[[M] Al - Biker Dad]

Edge:


Well, you know who I want to vote off. But I don't think most of the thread agrees due to our Role-Claim. Anyway, I'll go with whatever you choose. You've contributed more than I have, and I'd say you deserve the vote.

[[M] Al - Biker Dad]

Edge:

How can two people be logged on to the same account at the same time?

It works. I wouldn't suggest trying it with another person, obviously, but if you have more than one computer, try it out. I had assumed it wouldn't work myself.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Bahamut:


Yes, two people can log into an account at the same time. Me and qwerty do it with Bahamut all the time.

Yes, Edge is two people and from the IP addresses it is clear two people have made the recent posts.

[[M] Al - Biker Dad]

Edge:

How can two people be logged on to the same account at the same time?

I don't know, but it's amusing me!

Well, you know who I want to vote off. But I don't think most of the thread agrees due to our Role-Claim. Anyway, I'll go with whatever you choose. You've contributed more than I have, and I'd say you deserve the vote.

We should come to an agreement, because this vote seems important.

[[M] Al - Biker Dad]

Edge:


Perhaps you're right. The town can't win with indecisiveness, now can it?

Let's discuss it briefly over our normal account's PM's.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Fran:


Edge, one of you, all of you, whatever,

Can you explain why you chose to kill of Cyan? I kept going back and forth between the idea of a vig and a sk because I couldn't figure out why a vig would choose to kill someone who was not suspicious at the time, and was actually making long-ish posts that were thoughtfully analyzed. Why would you do that? If you don't HAVE to kill every night, why would you choose to do so? I regarded overeager vig as a potential HARMFUL role for the town's side because they could be taking out a lot of helpful townies if they weren't careful. But you're a regular vig, you could wait and watch and make sure to try and get the right people. Also, the Cyan thing, why Cyan over someone like Ramza who was obviously making illogical posts and random voting?

[[M] Al - Biker Dad]

Edge:


I'll leave the other me to that one. I wasn't here for the Cyan killing.

[[M] Jeff - Single Dad]

Cid


Wow, I leave for awhile and my beard misses a whole lot... Ok, I am not sure. I would like to thank whoever pointed out the fact that there could be a Mafia Cop though it seems like through Edgars posts when he laid his "hints" he seems like a real cop.

Quina, your not helping your case, your just yelling at The Ramza and yes, you make a few good points, but you haven't said anything that really convinces me your not a big bad mafioso.

[[M] Al - Biker Dad]

Edge:


I've got to go to bed soon. I think Sedge has already went to sleep. The vote we were leaning towards at the end of our discussion seemed to be Rinoa.

##VOTE: RINOA

Not to insult, Rinoa, but you are a main player. You have a lot of influence over the other players at this point, and such a thing would be deadly in the hands of the Mafia if used right.

[[M] Caprica]

Rinoa:


Sorry babe, but it's time to drop the bomb.

My role is Gunsmith. Each night I can investigate someone and find out if they had a gun. I will now go over my investigations.

Night 1 - I was roleblocked. This is consistent with what The Ramza has said. After reading through the earlier posts, I now think I was the mafia's target night 1. That night I was investigating Fran.

Night 2 - I investigated Freya, and was told she has a gun. That is why from that point forward I was going after Freya. After her roleclaim I believed her, as it was consitent with my findings, but by the time I got back around to the thread the day was over. Also, part of me wanted to see her lynched just to prove I wasn't insane or paranoid or any of that crap. Now, I don't know why I got my ability off if The Ramza locked me up again, but with Barret and the (possible) Prostitute he himself could have been roleblocked.

Night 3 - I investigated Fran again. Fran has a gun. I did not immediately go after her this time because Fran is a very smart and experienced player. I needed some more evidence, as this alone I think she could wiggle out from (if she was mafia).

Night 4 - Vivi. Vivi did not have a gun. A note about Gunsmith. Serial Killers and Mafia Ninja are two scum roles that don't carry guns. Vivi could be one of those. But since a Mafia Ninja has already been killed I do not think there is another.

Which brings us back to Fran. At first, I thought Fran was a Vigilante. But if she was, and she really thought The Ramza was scum, why wouldn't she just kill him off? Also, her reaction to Edge roleclaiming Vig does not indicate that she is a Vig. It just indicates that she knows a lot about the game (and she should, you should all know who she is right now).

The only other possibility I can think of for Fran (besides mafia) would be if she was Cop/Insane Cop. But at this point I think it's pretty obvious that The Ramza is what he says he is. At least I am convinced of it. He may be a weirdo, but he's a clean weirdo. A real cop would have eased off of him.

Therefore, Fran, the queen of Mafia, has been a mafia all along. I was proud of her for making it through the first night, but she has lasted way too long.

I'll give her a sporting chance of another post before I vote for her.

EDIT: I started typing this long before Edge made his post. I will type a response now.

[[M] Jeff - Single Dad]

Cid


Wow, Rinoa dropped a bomb right there. Ok, it checks out, it is constant with what The Ramza said, he said that he was roleblocked when he targeted Barret, so it is possible that he was role blocked on night two as well. It is now very possible that Fran is a mafia, but there is also the possibility that she is some other gun carrying job, but I dont know what that could be.

[[M] Caprica]

Rinoa:


Edge, you are correct about one thing. I am an infulential person in this game, and for good reason.

Secondary roleclaim: Administrator (Del Murder)

I have hosted this game twice, and played it in real life a handful of times. I know many things about how this game works.

One thing that makes me sad is when people sign up and don't participate. I also noticed, with theundeadhero and zeromus_x last game, that people who don't post tend to slide under the radar. I thought, if I ever played, and I was mafia, that would be a good tactic to use. You never post so you never have a chance to contradict yourself. So I decided that I would go after the inactive players, because:

a. It would shrink the group down to people who wanted to play the game
b. It would elminate any Mafia trying to hide

With Mog and Freya I was wrong. Or was I? What possible help would they have been if they never posted their thoughts? I don't even think Mog used his ability, according to what Bahamut hinted at.

Auron was an inactive player who turned up mafia. So I am satisfied that my crusade wasn't for nothing, even though I had nothing directly to do with his death. Hopefully in future games this will provoke people to be more active.

I am an influencial person in this game. That can be a bad thing when I'm wrong, and most of this is just educated guesses. But I strongly urge you not to vote for me. I am not afraid of dying, not anymore since I have told you all I know, but voting for me would be wasting another night, something we cannot afford.

[[M] Apollo]

Ramza:


The Ramza has a proposition.

Cid and Edge, change your votes over to Fran. If Fran is not a person who wields a gun, The Ramza will try to pick out who the Prostitute is, and Lock her up.

That way, Edge will have be able to take out Rinoa, assuming he is the Vigilante, since Rinoa would obviously be lying.

[[M] Jeff - Single Dad]

Cid


Cid's beard thinks that the Ramza makes a good point. I will wait for Fran to say something then vote. My beard also wants to discuss possible flaws in The Ramza's plan with me...

EDIT: How much time do we have left?

[[M] Caprica]

Rinoa:


Fran is a role with a gun. I know this 100%. I am not 100% sure that she is mafia, but right now she is my top suspect.

Time remaining is like 10 hours or so.