He was a good actor.
He was a good actor.
Death is serious business.Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
Why so serious?
And that is very sad
Wait, GodHatesFags.com isn't a joke?! All this time I thought it was one of those satirical websites like WhiteHouse.org or The Onion.
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No Boney, that site is not a Joke. Saddly.
Second, I quite agree with Kishi.
I mean a guy down the street dies. Sad, but I"m not affected.
Heath, on the other hand, has been making people across the world happy for a long time. He's brought a small bit of joy into a countless number of people.
Yes, I am far more sad that Heath has died then I am for a random guy down the street.
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So because heath ledger died from perscription meds, Bush decided to STOP his anti-drug campaign.
Apparently, the best way to stop saving people from overdoses is by stopping all anti-drug campaigns aimed at perscription drug abuse when someone dies from drug overdoses.
Actually Ava, they only said it was getting postponed, which sickens me even more then what you suggested.
Why would they postpone this unless they intended to use the Autopsy report in their speech?
I mean they are planning ways to use him before an autopsy is even given. This tactic is just as bad as the normal Media. (Mind you, if it's postponed because bush is actually stunned by this event, then this argument really has no bearing.)
Yeah, With me postpone tends to mean stop because if it doesn't happen't in the next two days I'll completely forget it ever existed.Actually Ava, they only said it was getting postponed, which sickens me even more then what you suggested.
Why would they postpone this unless they intended to use the Autopsy report in their speech?
I mean they are planning ways to use him before an autopsy is even given. This tactic is just as bad as the normal Media. (Mind you, if it's postponed because bush is actually stunned by this event, then this argument really has no bearing.)
But~ They also said they didn't want to much attention basically (They didn't want to seem "opportunistic in highlighting the issue"), so they did this.
Personally I wouldn't have associated an anti-perscription drug abuse campaign with heath ledgers death at all. It would have been just another anti-drug campaign that's become the norm.
I actually saw this on my local news then decided to look it up. The attention that Bush and Ledger is getting now is -way- more than the attention Ledger would have got if Bush didn't decide to "not be opportunistic".
We don't know yet whether or not he abused prescription drugs, anyway. An accidental fatal overdose is a very real possibility with a lot of strong medications; if Ledger was recovering from pneumonia as some reports suggest, then he'd be even more susceptible.
It was said that Xanax and Vallium was found.
He may have had a severe anxiety disorder (hence two very strong anxiety meds) that no one knew about and something triggered an episode to where he felt he needed both the meds.
Really it's the only thing that makes sense, but either way there should be no reason that anti-prescription drug abuse campaigns were postponed if Ledger truly had a severe mental disorder that caused him to feel his only relief was in his meds.
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It was unexpected... o_o...
Eh, just seems wrong to me. We shouldn't mourn this guy because some other guys died more tragically? But doesn't that mean we shouldn't mourn those guys again because there's some other guys that died even more tragically than the other guys? I'm willing to bet there's someone with an even more tragic story than those guys too. Looks like we'll never be able to justify one person's mourning then.But yeah, some deaths are more important to some people, while other deaths are more important to other people, that's the way it goes. As for what deaths are more important to the media is obviously decided by fame.
Cynical, aren't we?Relatively speaking, the young girl will certainly be fine. Better now than five years later, anyway. We honestly don't even know if he was a good father. Sure, they'll say it and a lot of us will believe it, but we won't KNOW it. We certainly have no idea how good a father he would have been later on. I mean, Britney is seen playing with happy kids but I sure as hell wouldn't call her a good mum.
Surprising news, only seen him in 10 things I hate about you, but good movie.
I don't mourn for anyone unless I have good reason to. People do die every day and I've accepted that. Sometimes they'll just happen to be famous but that won't make any difference to me - once you come down to it, I didn't know them on any personal level whatsoever. I'm not bothered if people are sad that they won't get to experience his acting in future films. I'm bothered that it's considered front page news. I'm also bothered that when Heath dies (I think about the Welsh version every time I say that name, which makes this thread very weird to me), it's such a big deal, but when other people die that are famous, it isn't as big a deal. If it's because he was so young and therefore it's shocking, then I suppose I can understand people talking about how shocking it is, but not how sad they are. Maybe some people just have a little too much empathy.
For sure. I mean, there was a dude that died on the pitch in front of thousands of fans recently. Not the first time that's happened to a famous footballer, either. I find that to be shocking for sure. x_x ...didn't make the front page news though. Even in his home country - it was massively talked about at the time but it wasn't on the front page.I'm willing to bet there's someone with an even more tragic story than those guys too.
This is very true.But yeah, some deaths are more important to some people, while other deaths are more important to other people, that's the way it goes.
This is somewhat true as well. I would probably appreciate the whole tragedy of the event if I didn't feel it was just made front page news because they figured the masses would be suckered into reading the papers or watching the TV channel. But to me the only reason this is being done on such a large scale is because the media know they can profit from a celebrity death, especially a relatively young one. I'm the kind of person that thinks celebrities should be able to live their lives without constant photographs and all that. There is no way that it should be headlining. It should be a few pages back, to show respect by not making it a way to sell papers.As for what deaths are more important to the media is obviously decided by fame.
Yeah, that's all true. But the main point is that I strongly agree that she will be fine, as growing up without a Dad is likely much easier than growing up with a Dad just to have him taken away from you at an age where you understand things much better, such as the ages around seven to ten. That's just my theory, but I'm fairly certain it's the right one.Cynical, aren't we?
Of course, it would be better still to grow up with a Dad who doesn't die, certainly. I would just be much, much more concerned with the friends and family that will understand the death rather than the young'n.
I do admit that I am being cynical but I just think it's preposterous that Heath Ledger's death is considered headline news when there is so much going on in the world.
Oh, and I wasn't aware he was Australian until I read Kishi's post.
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
Nor does anyone else. Your definition of 'good reason' is simply different from other people's. I don't give much of a fig for Heath Ledger because I didn't think much of his acting, but I'll still give the nod to decorum before I start being a Bun Bun about it. On the other hand, if Iain Banks died I'd be pretty sad, because even though I didn't know him personally I did know his writing and it wasn't just a bit of fun, it's actually very important to me. Much the same can be said about various artists in various fields. You get to feel like you know someone famous through what they do, even if it's false. So feeling sad when they die is a logical consequence.
This is probably the first time I have ever heard the idea that empathy is or can be a bad thing.Maybe some people just have a little too much empathy.
I fail to see the problem. That's what media does - it sells. Of course they're going to go with what they think will sell best.But to me the only reason this is being done on such a large scale is because the media know they can profit from a celebrity death, especially a relatively young one.
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