Do me a favour; go look your husband in the eye and tell him that your feelings for him are irrelevant to you. After all they're just an "emotion".Originally Posted by Roto13
Do me a favour; go look your husband in the eye and tell him that your feelings for him are irrelevant to you. After all they're just an "emotion".
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"nasses" oh thats rich, you trying to take the piss out of a dyslexic and dyspraxic person now are ya?
A person has the right to see emotions through thier own eyes. I mean, some people see anger at jokes softly taking the piss out of people, just because you feel it dont make it right, unless you are that sure that your views are the views of the masses.
He's been reading over my shoulder for a while now, actually. He knows the difference between emotions and magic, and he knows that love is important, even though it's just an emotion. He's practical like that.Do me a favour; go look your husband in the eye and tell him that your feelings for him are irrelevant to you. After all they're just an "emotion".
Love is electrical impulses in the brain. Anyone who says otherwise has already been proved wrong by science. My views might not be the same views as people who live in fairy tales, but I have a lot more to back up mine than "love feels like a wam hug <3"A person has the right to see emotions through thier own eyes. I mean, some people see anger at jokes softly taking the piss out of people, just because you feel it dont make it right, unless you are that sure that your views are the views of the masses.
Also, when people that young say they're "in love," it's more of an account of...infatuation, going by how I was at that age. Slander me all you want for saying so, but it's my opinion and I stand by it.
Yet science cannot explain the karma or the understanding of a religion. So who is to say it can explain love? No one.
I don't think you can compare love and religion. I'm not taking sides, or anything, I just think that love and faith are very different things.
Love is an interpretation of protein secretions in our brain. This is true and indisputable. In that sense there's nothing magical about what we call "love". We tend to mystify that interpretation because like other extreme emotions - hate and sorrow - love (or that protein secretion) has allowed people to lift heavy objects or run into burning buildings despite what our evolutionary imperative might tell us. It's a great feeling, probably better than all the narcotics in the world if you have the proper stimuli in your environment - a hot chick/dude with which you can connect on an intellectual level, for example - but to attribute peoples' actions based on that feeling as "magical" is absurd.
It's similar with faith and religion. You can believe the earth was created in six days and that God created man from dust, but you'd be wrong according to the evidence. The religious folks will say you're missing the beauty of creation and that science offers a cold reality, but I'd argue the opposite; simple explanations such as, "God did it" or "love conquers all", strip away any of the beauty we as humans can extract from our world. It's confining in its outlook. Love is a protein interpretation for this and this reason (I won't get into the reasons here), doesn't detract one bit from the beauty and really just serves to enhance it because in the minutia of the explanation lies the reason why it makes sense. With the other explanation it would be easy for someone to come along and refute "love" on the grounds that it baseless and something humans made up. The evidence perpetuates the legitimacy.
Love is not special. You're not special. Your significant other is not special. There is nothing mysterious about love and the underdeveloped teenage brain is obviously going to have a different interpretation of that protein secretion than a fully developed adult (usually starting in their mid-twenties with males and a little bit earlier with females), but that doesn't mean we can't find beauty in our relationships with people; it just means there's a reason for those relationships and why we do the things we do for the people in our lives.
Nothing magical about it, dudes.
Good for him. But the way you were talking was as if the whole idea of love was completely inconsequential to you and just happened to be a by-product of your gosh-darn brain.
Yam's personality summed up in three sentences.
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Yet again, that is your view. To think other people will believe your views or understand your views is quite, how can i say, nieve.
Read the rest of my post. You might be surprised.
I did read your post.
I dont believe anything is set. If you wanna believe what u think is love then go for it. Is it not true if u think about something enough and force yourself to think that way it becomes psycosomatic? So therefore maybe I have become that, all I know is what i feel and im sorry if i made anyone feel offence to my views.
Its just science cant explain religion or anything like that. And science is descovered by humans, humans are not perfect, nor did the create life or emotions, so therefore what sciene does or does not descover could be right, or it could be completely wrong.
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I was primarily being sarcastic, but I'll make a point here; you're kind of contradicting yourself when you say that we can still find beauty in things even if love is just a seemingly insignificant secretion of proteins. Yet finding beauty in things, the feelings of reverence, are very much in the same league as the emotions surrounding love. If you bundle everything we feel down to it's base components, it's nothing but proteins getting squirted about the place. But the product of that becomes greater than the sum of it's parts.
When people say things about love being "magical" and all the rest of it, is that not on the same level as you finding the significance in a well-written song or striking landscape? I'm an Atheist myself, and I'm not one to start attributing anything we see in the world to mystical forces. But at the same time I don't think you can disregard all romantic (if you'll pardon the ironic term) interpretations of the physical world we see. The fact that we don't just observe everything around us completely impassively and without feeling is a good thing. Yes it can get a bit out of hand with some people, but there's a marked difference between say believing that your girlfriend is the only one for you and that Jesus is going to fly out of the clouds and slice up the heathens. I don't think you can justify directly comparing the two beyond they both happen to be expressions of the human brain's cerebral cortex.
What I guess I'm trying to say is that you can't have it both ways; you can't say that what we feel is nothing but physical chemical processes and then start using terms such as beauty. It seems that you're picking out a certain type of love that you are against while at the same time maintaining significance to other emotions you feel are more "suitable" to have. I'm not saying you have to believe love is some mystical force, but devaluing it for the reasons you're stating doesn't fit in with your other views regarding relationships and emotions.
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Once again: not taking sides. But, what religion does or does not explain can also be true or false.
I'll take sides now, because this looks like fun.
I'm with Roto and () Yams on this one. Basically for the same reasons they've already put, but I'd've said it in a less intelligent and easy-to-understand way. I think love is special though, and Yams contradicted himself by saying it's not after having said it enables normal, rational people to run into a flaming building. If someone I hated was in a burning building, I sure as well wouldn't go in there to give him a good kicking before he died. If someone I like was in a burning building, I'd be
ting kittens but I wouldn't run in there to save them. I'd only do that for the people I love.
Love, in my opinion, is an emotion. And, as has been said, emotions are just brain dooberies. But it's a totally kicking emotion, and trumps the other ones for potency, if you get what I mean by that. However, I don't think love is a magical, God-given gift.
EDIT: After reading TK's post above, I can see the problems he's having with Yams definition. So I'm kinda in the middle of the two. I reckon they are just brain dooberies, but so is sight, hearing, taste etc., and that just because they're all brain dooberies doesn't mean that we can't find beauty in things. Especially when you consider that beauty is different to everyone, so is therefore a feeling or opinion, which is a brain doobery. So, it all ends up in your head anyway.
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My point was you <i>can</i> find beauty in that explanation just like I can find beauty in the syncopated rhythms of a King Crimson piece, but at the fundamental level there is nothing mysterious about it despite what all the touchy-feely people say.
Yet what gives you or others the authority to tell them what is right or wrong? And religion is exactly like it. Religion is a blelief. If people didnt believe ideas then where would religion be? I mean people have dysplayed sientific reasons why christiality is wrong yet christians still think christiality its right, its exactly the same with emotions or opinions. No ones opinions are right or wrong, but i believe no matter what they are all equal.Once again: not taking sides. But, what religion does or does not explain can also be true or false.
I'll take sides now, because this looks like fun.
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