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    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    Next, I'd like to point out the different accent means nothing. In the original Japanese there was no accent, that was just square's translators sucking, as always. As for the last part, again, I ask you to stop making things up. It's as if I'm reading fan fiction here.
    Um, I guess you misunderstood me. Ulti spoke very aggressively, Rinoa wasn't like that. So the way how they talk is different.

    Okay, your theory goes directly against what is stated in game. The game tells us that they lost their memories because of Junctioned GFs. We shouldn't question that to somethign that you just made up.
    That's a lie, they just don't want students to worry. They have lied about some other things too. Go figure for yourself.
    They talk different... Okay that shows me absolutely nothing about your theory xD Technically if R=U then they should talk similarly actually.

    You can't PROVE thats a lie. Actually there is more evidence that that is truth. When the game started mentioning GF's having the capability to make people lose memory, one of our characters spoke up, and said that the higher ups said there is no truth in that.

    You make it sound like the higher ups started that rumor to make them not worry about some other big important danger. Which there is no evidence to, and anything you say will be completely made up :P

    Oh and, I will not go figure it out myself. Your presenting a theory, thats your job. If you don't want to do it, don't post in support of the theory.

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar View Post
    Rinoa is not a SEED trained in the garden.
    The word Seed has a meaning beyhound that(as implied by the torture in the prision).
    I think you mean "beyond" xD

    Anyway. Again, where did you prove that Rinoa meets the SeeD requirement? There is a large section of the game where Rinoa emphisizes that she feels she isn't like the rest of the party.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    The problem with this, is that not all the theory's on -anything- FFVIII related are weighed to be equal.

    Like my philosophy professor used as an example of chosing the simplest explanation over one's that have equal to no evidence:

    We go outside and are surrounded by sunlight, we accept the sun as our source of light, but what if it was infact small green and yellow balls that we can not feel or touch hitting against each other that 'causes the ilusion of the sun, we can say that we know the sun keeps us lit because scientists tell us, but as we discused previously scientests can be wrong (see: N ray - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) thus meaning we have to prove for ourselves what exactly we see. Which would be easier for you to accept, that there is a sun in the sky providing light or small green and yellow balls in our atmosphere keeping the world lit and then traveling to other area's when night has fallen.

    Clearly saying the sun is the easiest and simplest of the answers, not only because of the logic already placed in it, but the lack of logic places into green and yellow balls hitting each other.

    Without logic, a person can believe any theory, I could prolly convince my 3 year old neice of any theory concieved because she has no concept of logic at this point.

    Logic and reasoning is still used in Ockrams Razor and some people consider their speculation as logic, "what you see is what you get" and they do not see what others see, which is clear in the thread about the skeletons of the bosses thread.
    Deformations/shockwaves (like tsunami, floods, etc) which can cause impacts + new position of the bones caused by tsunami or flood = TC can kill people, or change things' positions slowly.
    Isn't that enough logic for me to understand? Those findings are my interpretation, I understand them, they make sense. They probably don't make sense to you. But that's normal, right? Because not everybody in real life believe everything.
    No, you are defending a theory, in order to defend, or support a theory you need to provide facts in the game, not mindless interpretations. Until you learn how to do this you will not be proving any of your theories correct.


    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    SeeD's a world-famous team of killer teenage mercenaries. Rinoa hired SeeDs to work for her, so obviously she'd know who they are and what they do.
    True, it's famous but what I meant is that Rinoa is not very interested in asking Squall about SeeD whatsoever, like why did he become a SeeD, if Rinoa loves him... she's supposed to care about Squall's integrity, like she should persuade him to quit SeeD so he gets higher chance of not dying from fighting etc etc etc. I may be wrong, though.
    You have a very selfish view of love. If someone loves someone else then they accept their decisions. Squall made the decision to become a SeeD a long time before he met Rinoa, what gives her the right to tell him he is wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    If you don't believe me, then why bother arguing with me? There's no point in doing that since our agruements will become endless, hm?
    There is a point to arguing Serapy. Some are personal. A personal one for me is a I hate stupidity, and everytime I read one of your posts or FE's posts on these theories, thats all I see, stupidity.

    But more importantly, you have the deluded impression that free speech should mean no one should question you question you when you make a statement, or a theory. If we feel one of your theories is wrong we will argue, and our arguments will be totally acceptable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    I thought TC can cause geological catastrophes, due to deformations/shockwaves.

    and, Dr Odine, I don't care. I have never talked with him before.
    I said that because I thought he misunderstood me.

    You are just taking everything seriously. I never had the intention of making my theories become reality, that's why they are called theories based on my speculation. As you have mentioned that you are re-playing FF8, so I suggest you pay attention and finish it. When you are done, then I'd so love to hear your speculation.
    Ah. A classic amateur move of a losing debater. "YOU'RE BEING TOO SERIOUS LEAVE ME ALONE!"

    Theories are based of speculation of facts. I've yet to see facts, I'm asking for them, and I'm receive hostility.

    Both your, and FE's theories are actually "Fanfiction."
    Quote Originally Posted by M-W.com: Fiction
    1 a: something invented by the imagination or feigned; specifically : an invented story
    Therefore I won't be happy till you all pack up and move to the Writer's Corner, where this crap actually belongs
    Last edited by Goldenboko; 02-05-2008 at 08:58 PM.

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