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    I'm sort of in two minds about the direction in which SE is going. To me, FF13 and Versus sound like they're going to be quite good (Agito not so much), and the recent remakes of the older titles in the series are good because it makes them more accessible to the general public, which is a good business move for SE IMO.

    I have no objection to SE working on three titles at once. Squaresoft began production on FFVIII and IX at the same time, and they both turned out to be great games. Nowadays Square Enix is much larger and has more resources so producing three games should work out just fine.

    What I don't like are all these "extra" games and unnecessary sequels/prequels, namely, the Compilation of FF7. I shouldn't really judge before I play some of the games, though, but for now I just pretend they don't exist. I mean, no-ones forcing me to play them.

    Also, I didn't really appreciate how they got rid of the world map system in X, and I don't like FFXII's battle system all that much, but I'm glad SE's pushing the boundaries and experimenting with new things, and IMO those two games were still awesome despite not being the "typical" FF.

    So I guess all-in-all I'm quite happy with the way SE is taking FF. (Say "No!" to the FF7 Compilation!!)
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    I think the main series is having it's problems however:

    Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles seems to be getting better the more I hear about the new games

    Final Fantasy Tactics is still an amazing game

    The remakes of the early classics are wonderful and let me relive my favorite games with something extra.

    As for the main series... I'm not too sure. I think they should focus on more newer titles, instead of doing multiple games under the same title. And I honestly think they should work on establishing a NEW franchise, with Square and Enix combined. Right now it's still Square is FF, and Enix is DQ... if they made one that was Square Enix, it'd just be pure win.

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    Ive not really liked anything Squares done since Enix got heavily envolved, X was a dissapointment, X-2 should be illegal, and XII was just as dissapointing, So I've pretty much given up on the series all together as with the Resident Evil series, but XIII does seem to be okay from the more recent released infomation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuggly Blight View Post
    Ive not really liked anything Squares done since Enix got heavily envolved, X was a dissapointment, X-2 should be illegal, and XII was just as dissapointing, So I've pretty much given up on the series all together as with the Resident Evil series, but XIII does seem to be okay from the more recent released infomation.
    X and X-2 were both made BEFORE Enix joined, just so you know.

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    X-2 Was made by Square Enix, Just so you know....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuggly Blight View Post
    X-2 Was made by Square Enix, Just so you know....
    I believe by the time it arrived outside of Japan, Squaresoft and Enix had merged. But in Japan it was still released under 'Squaresoft'. Don't go quoting me on this, I've read it somewhere here on eyesonff. Regardless, the idea of X-2 must have existed even before Enix came in. So your logic fails anyway. People just like to blame Enix for FF's so-called downfall, while Enix barely is involved with any FF game. Maybe not involved at all. But bleh, let's ignore that. Blaming Enix for a FF game not suiting one's tastes (thus making you not liking X and X-2 and XII your own fault) is fun, I guess.

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    Yeah because mergers so take 1 hour... "Don't go qouting me on this" then your logic fails? Geez man grow up. Enix and Square had been suffling there departments and teams for months before it hit the headlines, Square Enix was creditid with its Europrian release, and belive it or not, people dont go checking to see if the developer was diffrent in another country. FF12 was still a dissapointment (so your logic fails) so just because someone does not adore your beloved favorate game its not a invitation to go on a tantrum spam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuggly Blight View Post
    Yeah because mergers so take 1 hour... "Don't go qouting me on this" then your logic fails? Geez man grow up. Enix and Square had been suffling there departments and teams for months before it hit the headlines, Square Enix was creditid with its Europrian release, and belive it or not, people dont go checking to see if the developer was diffrent in another country. FF12 was still a dissapointment (so your logic fails) so just because someone does not adore your beloved favorate game its not a invitation to go on a tantrum spam.
    Fool. Whenever did I say XII was my favourite game? Case you can't read, it's in gigantic (okay, exagerated) letters under my user name. FF III (NES/DS) is my favourite game.

    You're just being ignorant thinking Enix was responsible for anything in X, X-2 or XII, which I very, very seriously doubt. Just as I very, very seriously doubt Squaresoft has any hand in Dragon Quest IX.

    It's not Enix fault that you don't like a game. Or that it isn't exactly like how you want it to be.

    And just so you know, I can't stand much of X either and I'll never touch X-2 cause X bored me to tears so why should I play its sequel, but I'm not going to blame Enix. Squaresoft made X, X-2 and XII. Not Enix. If DQ IX won't be fun for me, I'm not gonna blame Squaresoft because their people smurfed up Enix next game.

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    What? Squaresoft did NOT make XII, Squaresoft had been defunct 3 YEARS the time it came out, and XI even had Dragonquest refrences, (which didn't go down to well) so Im not sure what "logic I fail" your trying to argue over a series of bad games you dont like, and apparently, by the tone, I have to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuggly Blight View Post
    What? Squaresoft did NOT make XII, Squaresoft had been defunct 3 YEARS the time it came out, and XI even had Dragonquest refrences, (which didn't go down to well) so Im not sure what "logic I fail" your trying to argue over a series of bad games you dont like, and apparently, by the tone, I have to?
    Is it that hard to grasp? I was merely implying That even within SE Squaresoft and Enix still work pretty much on their own, regardless of being merged. The teams of Enix and Squaresoft didn't suddenly go "Yo Enix guys, care to help us with our next FF game?!" or the other way around. Sure there are references (see Gilgamesh' sword in FF XII) but Enix teams being involved with making a FF game? Doubt it. So tell me, where exactly again is it Enix fault X, X-2 and XII weren't good games? I'm fine with people disliking games, I'm against people blaming Enix for FF going downhill. Cause it's simply not true. FF may be going downhill for some, but that being Enix fault, no.

    Likewise, if DQ IX becomes a success, I really doubt it's because any guy from the FF-team had a hand in it.

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    Why the HELL would any company keep two seperate vast companies doing the same thing but using there own resources and running up the bills in a very competitive industry, Its far far far exesive, The term merging itself is obvious, not two companies work as normal but under the same name, alot of teams had been axed on both sides and departments and facilities, Its a JOINT effort, they are now one and the same, you can NOT put a wedge between it being Squares fault and not Enix when there the same company and the teams have melted and intergrated into each other, with shuffles and such and that includes directors, writers, producers, executives etc.
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    I think the only thing Squenix really needs to do is fire Nomura. XII proved that Squenix is still capable of making engrossing games that are more than barely-interactive movies about ridiculous teenagers working up the courage to kiss each other.

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    I like nomura's games about teenage kissing

    there's no sense in changing a final fantasy formula because SE produce many other fine titles that they use for such experiments.

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    Nomura has already announced that the FFXIII compilation is the last Final Fantasy project he's working on. After that, he's dedicating himself entirely to the Kingdom Hearts series.

    Next best thing to firing him, eh, Roto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch! View Post
    Nomura has already announced that the FFXIII compilation is the last Final Fantasy project he's working on. After that, he's dedicating himself entirely to the Kingdom Hearts series.

    Next best thing to firing him, eh, Roto?
    Indeed. :P

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