Enough credit?
Do you think final fantasy 8 gets enough credit? To me it seems it gets bashed the most out of all the final fantasy games most people point to the story saying its weak but I disagree for a game the story is good and I don’t understand why people don’t get the love story whats not to get? I think the graphics at the time were very good and the game play equally as good, in my opinion its up there with the best!
I think FFVIII gets too much credit :rolleyes2
If you like it, it doesn't get enough credit.
If you don't it get's to much.
I like it.
i like the story fine i just didn't like rinoa
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I understand the love story. It's not a matter of me not getting it; rather, it's a matter of me thinking it was poorly paced and weakly developed.
FFVIII isn't a bad game by any stretch--it tops many other games easily--but I consider it my least favorite in the series for many reasons.
Also, I think FFVIII gets its fair share of credit. I think it's just the only game in the series where the hate is more vocal than the love.
In my opinion, it was the best developed love story, but that's mainly because I can realted to it.
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To quote the great walkthrough thread of "Let's Play FFVIII"I understand the love story. It's not a matter of me not getting it; rather, it's a matter of me thinking it was poorly paced and weakly developed.
"They're in love. Which is sort of weird because in the entire 35 hours they've known each other they've said about a hundred words to each other. *Robert's played cards with Dr. Kadowaki more than that."
*Note the person renamed Squall to Robert in their game.
I think they summed up the love story well enough. It wasn't that good. Really FF II, I thought had a better love story going.
Really the weak points VIII had was it's terrible pacing on the story, it's confusing storyline that never went anywhere, a terrible story implementation, undeveloped characters who are 'just there', and well I could go on, but in short the story was terrible. The premise was good but they failed after Disc 1 if not even earlier.
As for the GOOD points, it had some good graphics, some of the best for the era, they transitioned real time graphics and FMV's real well too. The battle and junction system were interesting but have a few flaws (as with any game though). The 2 main vehicles were interesting in the game as well. I enjoyed Garden as a vehicle, and Ragnarok was just plain cool.
But really flashy graphics and an interesting battle system can't overshadow weak characters and lack of story.
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Bahamut2000X summed up most of my thoughts on FFVIII nicely.
The biggest reason I don't like FFVIII is everything in it feels like a chore, from obtaining cards playing Triple Triad(which I find boring) for item refinement to drawing magic from enemies then upgrading it, ad nauseum. I have no care to explore the world and the story feels like it relies on character clichés more than developing it's own unique cast, plot and feel. If a game lacks both an interesting story and fun exploration/item discovery system, there's nothing left in the game for me.
Yes, it does have some positives, but not enough to outweigh the negatives for me.
Also, FFVIII has the distinction of being the only game in the series I haven't finished(besides FFXII, which I'm still working on).
I think quite a few people thought some of the plot elements were unconvincing. Namely, the GFs causing memory loss and the huge whammy which is the Squall - Rinoa 'relationship.'
I thought the rest of the story was pretty good though. I do think it is overated.
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VIII was doomed to get immense amounts of hate from the start. On one hand you had the prissy little SNES warriors who were infuriated at the popularity of VII, and it spilled over into VIII as well. Then you had the fans of FFVII, which was among many things, a story of revenge, who didn't want to see a story of teenage angst and love. Of course there were alot of people who played the earlier FF's, or FFVII, or even this one first and enjoyed it alot.
Then there was the fact that the gameplay, similar to FFXII, was misunderstood. I've seen alot of people (like spoony) who assume that you have to draw 99 of each spell for each character before moving on. In reality, that's like seeing the number next to "level" for each character in other FF's and assuming you have to get that to 99 before you can advance. You can draw a little here and there as you go and the experience makes for a much better one.
Up until maybe a year-year and a half ago I also thought the game was weak as hell. I thought junctioning was not only tedious but ineffective system for character development, and that Squall's relationship with Rinoa was completely unrealistic.
Well, I adopted the "draw as you go + refine" mentality and it made the game extremely playable. Also, when you take a second to think about the love story, honestly with an open mind, it is actually pretty damn realistic. I think it has one of the best stories in the series and possibly the best ending. The character development is very addictive and allows for you to make different party compositions each time you go back to replay it. As good as it is, I think yeah, it doesn't get enough credit. It's also notable in that the music really made a huge jump from the previous games. Some might not like the songs, but as far as sound quality, it was pretty noteworthy.
you dont have to play the card game now do you? as for people not liking to draw it just sounds lazy to me! how can you say the story isnt interesting?
You might find the poll results for this thread interesting.
FFVIII happens to be my favorite next only to FFT. But it's not to everyone's taste.
Your response to my justifications is so articulated. :rolleyes2
FF VIII is the Victam of trying to do to much in one game. WAY, to much.
As a result, every kind of subplot mentioned is done halfassed, and isn't expanded upon.
GF Memory Loss for one. REally, did that even effect the game at all?
Oh wait, yes it does, it shows IRvine is a heartless bastard.
Note, he DIDN'T loose his memory like the others. And what happened when it was time to shoot edea? He didn't have a problem because she basically raised them, but because he didn't want to miss.
Any problems with this scenario?
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