The Decline of Hip Hop

[Roto13]

If you're going to assume that my opinions are invalid, there shouldn't be anything to stop me from doing the same.

Except you're not stating things as opinions, you're trying to make them to be fact without any real argument to back them up.

Not liking rap is fine. When you come in and say that everything about it is awful and that the opinion of others are invalid because of what you think, that's where I think everyone who's fought you in this thread has a problem.

Maybe we should all turn and pick on DK, then, because of his assumption that I think the only hip hop music in the world is the :skull::skull::skull::skull: on top 40 radio.

[nozkits]

Who else thinks that lately that Hip hop and rap has just gone downhill? I mean we aren't getting that many good or unique artists anymore. Seriously it wasn't this bad when I was young I feel sorry for these new group of teenagers listening to this garbage. Lil Mama and Soulja Boy need their contracts ripped. Come on, that Youtune song he made that made him famous is garbage it just repeats that horrible tune and he barely does any rapping and the rapping that he does is weak. have you heard of his newest video check it out here, the worst garbage ever. Nas was right this genre's dying.

Mainstream hiphop has always been crap.
Check out Lupe Fiasco if you don't want to leave the mainstream, but want to hear a good rapper.

Immortal Technique, Tonedeff, MR. MEcca, etc

There are tons of underground artist out there that doesn't produce crap, and trust me underground hiphop is highly political in terms of the topics they cover in their music.

[fire_of_avalon]

I don't listen to much in this scene, but Stu helped me fall in love with nerdcore. If you like hip hop and rap, y'all need to be listening to some nerdcore.

I just started hearing Lupe Fiasco and I likey.

A lot of what you hear on the radio is club music. I don't like it. I don't like it at the club either.

And I agree with everyone else. You have to look past all the bull to find a gem.

[El Bandito]

There's really no genre I can think that is currently thriving creatively on the mainstream. Music is such a big business that big labels could care less about creativity, they just want to make money. Generally the public doesn't respond well to anything different than a simple "verse-chorus-verse" kind of musical form and the big companies are more that happy to give people what they want.

[TyphoonThaReapa]

If you're going to assume that my opinions are invalid, there shouldn't be anything to stop me from doing the same.

Don't feel bad Roto. Everyone just seem to ignore my opinion. Therefor, I'm the weakest link...:rolleyes2

[Araciel]

Everything ends.

[DK]

Maybe we should all turn and pick on DK, then, because of his assumption that I think the only hip hop music in the world is the on top 40 radio.

Not at all. The fact is anyone who comes steaming into a thread about a genre of anything saying "it's all " is being a dumbass because there's clearly no way you've heard everything in the entire genre, so there's no way you can ever say it's dire with absolute certainty. Like Stu said, I don't care if you don't like hip hop or not. I'm not saying everyone has to like something in everything, 'cause that's retarded. But dismissing an entire genre as shiet, when you're apparently already biased against it anyway and coming in to threads made about said genre and acting like a condescending ass is just dumb.

IIRC your favourite band is the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and I personally find them to be a completely overrated and mediocre band, but I'm not going to come into every thread about them moaning about them. People find value in things, and dismissing that is just a bit .

[Breine]

There are several good Rap/Hip Hop artists out there. Some examples are: Missy Elliott, M.I.A., Snoop Dogg, Beastie Boys, Ludacris, Nas, Jay-Z, Kanye West (and Lauryn Hill if she was still active) etc.

Hip Hop was just generally better in the e.g. 80s and 90s, but there are still some very good Hip Hop music and such that's released these days. Don't let the terrible-ness of "artists" like e.g. Soulja Boy, Black Eyed Peas, Will.i.am, Akon, 50 Cent etc. destroy you're love for Hip Hop.

[Old Manus]

Somebody needs to make a 'metal is bloody awful' thread, and watch in awe as the very fabric of space, time and the universe, is shaken.

Imho rap music currently is pretty poor all round, with the exception of a few artists (who unfortunately tend to have been around a long time and past their prime. I'm looking at you Common). Everybody I know who listens to rap, I've tried to introduce them into classic hip hop slowly, starting with Dr. Dre, then moving through Biggie and 2pac until we reach the awesomeness which is A Tribe Called Quest, and then we achieve lyrical nirvana, and an all round appreciation of rap music.

metal is also bloody awful

[DK]

Metal is great and so is Hip Hop oh now what huh huh?

[Polaris]

I used to listen hip hop on the second Eminem cds but still I just have two hip hop cds, one from Nelly I think it was his first one and two from Eminem. Those were the only ones I've heard so far! I don't think hip hop is the only music garbage! Now anyone can record a cd, you just have to be cool or good looking, or even if you're not they'll find a good song that teenagers will love. The problem is teenagers nowadays just care about be popular and listen the some songs everyone else do. It's actually "our" fault because we buy those cds or we check them on youtube.

[Old Manus]

Metal is great and so is Hip Hop oh now what huh huh?

time paradox

[Roto13]

Maybe we should all turn and pick on DK, then, because of his assumption that I think the only hip hop music in the world is the :skull::skull::skull::skull: on top 40 radio.

Not at all. The fact is anyone who comes steaming into a thread about a genre of anything saying "it's all :skull::skull::skull::skull:" is being a dumbass because there's clearly no way you've heard everything in the entire genre, so there's no way you can ever say it's dire with absolute certainty. Like Stu said, I don't care if you don't like hip hop or not. I'm not saying everyone has to like something in everything, 'cause that's retarded. But dismissing an entire genre as shiet, when you're apparently already biased against it anyway and coming in to threads made about said genre and acting like a condescending ass is just dumb.

IIRC your favourite band is the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and I personally find them to be a completely overrated and mediocre band, but I'm not going to come into every thread about them moaning about them. People find value in things, and dismissing that is just a bit :skull::skull::skull::skull:.

You can be sure that if there was a Chili Peppers thread and the first thing you said was "The Chili Peppers suck" you can be damn sure the first post from me wouldn't be "Oh, Dan is just too ignorant to know that the Chili Peppers are awesome. He's obviously never heard any of their good music." Remember, your very first post in this thread was acting like a condescending ass.

[Roogle]

I feel that mainstream hip hop has almost always been of the same quality; moreover, I think that there is a reason that it becomes popular and, eventually, mainstream. I do not have a strong opinion about the subject one way or another, but I do feel a need to become familiarized with certain songs for social interactivity — otherwise, I might look clueless when it comes down to it, and I don't like that —

You can be sure that if there was a Chili Peppers thread and the first thing you said was "The Chili Peppers suck" you can be damn sure the first post from me wouldn't be "Oh, Dan is just too ignorant to know that the Chili Peppers are awesome. He's obviously never heard any of their good music." Remember, your very first post in this thread was acting like a condescending ass.

I do not like it when I read a thread and people get snappy at each other. Make sure that you don't get too argumentative or else someone will have to close the thread, warn users, or delete posts and the entire topic of discussion will be thrown off because of you. I will strongly dislike that.

[Jessweeee♪]

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