wow 360 still uses basic DVDs for their games they really are farther behind than i originaly thaught, i was under the impression that the games were pressed on HD Disks... yeah i don't care how many disks it takes to fit a game onto either but the fact still remains that HD-DVD was obsolete before it even came out... it was the impatience of the consumer not wanting to wait for the superior product to be released that drove the initial sales of HD-DVD, but now that BluRay is out and is far superior in storage space (better quality and more bonus features) there's no doubt that it will be the defacto media format for the next 10-20 years... the impatient consumers that invested in HD-DVD have in essence shot themselves in the foot on this one... i knew i was waiting to buy a 360 for some reason, guess i'll wait for the refit 360's that use BluRay to come out...