Griever

[rubah]

Because FF8 deserves better than HURT OR HEAL threads.

Hi Sir Bahamut you didn't happen to bring Squall_of_SeeD with you did you?

[The Last Oath]

Wow, that picture of the sorceress.. If u ask me, it is a a statue built by the garden for symbolic reasons...

1. SeeD are meant to defeat the sorceress
2. Squall recieved Shiva FROM Balamb Garden.. Shiva may be a GF that represents Balamb. (i.e. The hall of Shiva)

[Cloud88]

Ultimecia could compress and absorb space and time itself and create GF's out of thin air. As such, it is hardly a stretch to say that she was able to in some way scan Squall's mind and find the image of Griever.

That's the problem. Why has it to be Squall? Why is it only Squall that Ultimecia manifested of? Why can't it be someone else?

If she did scan other people, its not like she'd find anything worth recreating. I mean, its not like a giant hotdog is gonna create much fear or damage.

[Sir Bahamut]

Because FF8 deserves better than HURT OR HEAL threads.

Hi Sir Bahamut you didn't happen to bring Squall_of_SeeD with you did you?

Nah, afraid not. He officially retired from FF debating a couple of years ago as he was getting married! Haven't seen him since, so he probably won't be back.

[leader of mortals]

Did seraphy seriously ask why it has to be squall? HE IS THE MAIN CHARACTER!!!!!! He's supposed to be more important!

[Takara]

Ultimecia could compress and absorb space and time itself and create GF's out of thin air. As such, it is hardly a stretch to say that she was able to in some way scan Squall's mind and find the image of Griever.

That's the problem. Why has it to be Squall? Why is it only Squall that Ultimecia manifested of? Why can't it be someone else?

If she did scan other people, its not like she'd find anything worth recreating. I mean, its not like a giant hotdog is gonna create much fear or damage.

Well, I'd be scared...

[BG-57]

Ultimecia could compress and absorb space and time itself and create GF's out of thin air. As such, it is hardly a stretch to say that she was able to in some way scan Squall's mind and find the image of Griever.

That's the problem. Why has it to be Squall? Why is it only Squall that Ultimecia manifested of? Why can't it be someone else?

If she did scan other people, its not like she'd find anything worth recreating. I mean, its not like a giant hotdog is gonna create much fear or damage.

Well, I'd be scared...

[Takara]

But that's not a giant hotdog! Not as scary as a giant hotdog.

[Serapy]

Wow, that picture of the sorceress.. If u ask me, it is a a statue built by the garden for symbolic reasons...

1. SeeD are meant to defeat the sorceress
2. Squall recieved Shiva FROM Balamb Garden.. Shiva may be a GF that represents Balamb. (i.e. The hall of Shiva)

The statue in the picture isn't exactly located in Balamb Garden, it's being surrounded around by the Deling City street (according to the FMV) during the flashback, I'm not sure why but I think it could be a representation of everything being compressed.

[Keltainen Paprika]

The statue isn't always in the ballroom.


See portion of it here, but the woman is gone.

The significance of the nude woman is unknown; nothing suggests it has anything to do with Time Compression. Time Compressed world cannot exist. It's a Game Over, end of the world, if time was compressed. Ultimecia never actually achieves Time Compression. She starts it, but never finishes it.

[Crye 4 Me]

Wow, that picture of the sorceress.. If u ask me, it is a a statue built by the garden for symbolic reasons...

1. SeeD are meant to defeat the sorceress
2. Squall recieved Shiva FROM Balamb Garden.. Shiva may be a GF that represents Balamb. (i.e. The hall of Shiva)

The statue in the picture isn't exactly located in Balamb Garden, it's being surrounded around by the Deling City street (according to the FMV) during the flashback, I'm not sure why but I think it could be a representation of everything being compressed.

The statue isn't always in the ballroom.


See portion of it here, but the woman is gone.

The significance of the nude woman is unknown; nothing suggests it has anything to do with Time Compression. Time Compressed world cannot exist. It's a Game Over, end of the world, if time was compressed. Ultimecia never actually achieves Time Compression. She starts it, but never finishes it.

Hi I'm new and haven't posted here in years this one caught my eye. It's correct that the statue is in different parts of the world and maybe it's just to get our brain's a rolling and nothing more as it could just be one of the thing like in movies where you will see a character wearing a coat one minute and 2 seconds later he's not and he's not had time to remove it.

[Marky Tee]

umm can i just ask one thing?
just because when you scan griever it says something like"in squalls mind,the strongest gf"
how does that imply that griever only exists in squalls mind?
sounds more like in squalls opinion the strongest gf
at least thats what i thought
what about you lot?

[Goldenboko]

Well, it makes sense to me. Otherwise, I'll be happy to acknowledge information from you people that could disprove my theory or the Griever being on the Moon.

The burden of proof is on the person making the positive claim.

[Serapy]

Yeah, it's strange.

Comparison:

In the Disc 1, during the attempted assassination, Edea and Seifer were behind the gate of Dollet City.

and

In the flashblack, the camera then zoomed from the place (near where Irvine attempted to shoot Edea) into the gate of Dollet City STRAIGHT, just like the motions of the attempted assassination. When the camera went though the gate, you will then see the ball place with the statue and Rinoa in it.

The question is that why does the flashblack take place behind the gate of Dollet City? My first thought was that Squall almost died (or almost got badly injured) in the gate of Dollet City. So during the dream, he thought of Rinoa and where did he get hit, which automatically makes him see Dollet City and how did he meet Rinoa, but I'm really not sure about that yet...

Wow, that picture of the sorceress.. If u ask me, it is a a statue built by the garden for symbolic reasons...

1. SeeD are meant to defeat the sorceress
2. Squall recieved Shiva FROM Balamb Garden.. Shiva may be a GF that represents Balamb. (i.e. The hall of Shiva)

I forget to say one more thing; yes obviously, SeeDs are always designed to kill sorceresses, but the problem is that what about other GFs like Eden? Eden is a gigantic garden and it's totally irrelevant to the actual designs of gardens and yet it came to existence.

[JackNapier]

Ultimecia could compress and absorb space and time itself and create GF's out of thin air. As such, it is hardly a stretch to say that she was able to in some way scan Squall's mind and find the image of Griever.

That's the problem. Why has it to be Squall? Why is it only Squall that Ultimecia manifested of? Why can't it be someone else?

If she did scan other people, its not like she'd find anything worth recreating. I mean, its not like a giant hotdog is gonna create much fear or damage.

Well, I'd be scared...

Win.