Who Was Stronger: Seifer or Squall?

[Forsaken Lover]

What we can go on:

-In their first fight, the FF8 intro, they were about even.
-in their second fight at the end of Disc 1, Squall alone manages to defeat Seifer.
-Squall and two other party members take on and beat Seifer 2 more times. (game mechanics aside, You do confront Seifer with 3 people so storywise, I say it was 3 on 1)
-Seifer owned Odin in one shot.

So, who was stronger?

[Raebus]

They're equally strong.

[leader of mortals]

First: Even
Second: Squall is much better
Third: Even
Fourth: Even
Fifth: Seifer

[Marky Tee]

seifer killing odin was bloody stupid
a badass norse god jus running into a sword? the feck?
anyone actauly know the reason for this happening and what it was supposed to mean story wise?

[Forsaken Lover]

Well it means:
A) It meant Seifer was faster and stronger than Odin. It was an in-gameplay scene so the graphics weren't great but I don't think Odin just "ran into a sword". i think it was supposed to be he was running at Seifer to do his usual move and Seifer just got the first strike.
B) We get Gilgamesh as a replacement who is stronger than Odin.

That's all I can think of.

[Marky Tee]

as much as i do love gigamesh the ff8 version of odin is the most badass character ever
any other odin wouldnt be as good as gilgamesh but 8's does rule

[Xurts]

Story wise I think Squall has a slight edge over Seifer.

[rubah]

I think they're probably evenly matched; they're supposed to be polar opposites afterall.

[blackmage_nuke]

Opening - Seifer
Delling - Squall (Unless you lost)
Galbadia - About even it's 3 on 1 so we cant really tell
Galbadia with Edea - Well Seifer's weakened. So i guess technically Squall is better
Lunatic Pandora - 3 on 1 again.

So its really hard to tell who's better, but chances are they wouldnt make a game where the rival is stronger than the main character despite how much cooler the rival is ,that barely ever happens. Theyre usually tied

[Forsaken Lover]

Well, I don't want to bring too much game mechanics into this but since getting Odin is entreily dependent on gameplay, I think it should a tleast be considered:

Odin's Zantetsuken is insta-death for the party and results in Game Over. This obviously wasn't the case for Seifer.

[The Last Oath]

I'll give it to seifer that he was even with Squall at the start BUT after squall became a SeeD he became better skillful with his gunblade and easily defeated Seifer one on one. Further, even though Seifer is taken on by 3 of your party members, it is very and easily possible to defeat Seifer by just using squall. He can heal himself and depending on his strength, he can kill Seifer in 7-10 hits or 1 or 2 renzokukens.

This also applies to their third battle. On limit breaks, Seifers are only single hit, AND, even when seifer is in your party, squall is still able to do more damage with his Renzokuken. AMEN

[leader of mortals]

Lets solve this once and for all...

Taken from Final Fantasy VIII / 8 / FF8 - Characters

Squall
LV/ HP/ Str/ Vit/ Mag/ Spr/ Spd/ Luck
1/ 223/ 1/ 1/ 2/ 1/ 20/ 15
10/ 616/ 8/ 8/ 8/ 7/ 22/ 16
20/ 1044/ 15/ 14/ 15/ 13/ 24/ 16
30/ 1464/ 21/ 16/ 21/ 18/ 25/ 17
40/ 1877/ 27/ 24/ 27/ 22/ 27/ 18
50/ 2281/ 32/ 28/ 31/ 26/ 29/ 19
60/ 2678/ 36/ 32/ 35/ 29/ 30/ 19
70/ 3067/ 40/ 35/ 39/ 32/ 32/ 20
80/ 3449/ 43/ 37/ 42/ 33/ 34/ 21
90/ 3822/ 46/ 39/ 44/ 35/ 35/ 21
100/ 4187/ 47/ 41/ 45/ 36/ 37/ 22


Seifer
LV/ HP/ Str/ Vit/ Mag/ Spr/ Spd/ Luck
1/ 275/ 3/ 2/ 2/ 5/ 15/ 12
10/ 812/ 10/ 8/ 9/ 10/ 18/ 13
20/ 1400/ 17/ 14/ 15/ 16/ 21/ 13
30/ 1800/ 23/ 19/ 21/ 20/ 24/ 14
40/ 2553/ 29/ 24/ 26/ 25/ 27/ 15
50/ 3117/ 34/ 28/ 30/ 28/ 30/ 16
60/ 3674/ 38/ 32/ 34/ 32/ 33/ 16
70/ 4223/ 41/ 34/ 38/ 34/ 36/ 17
80/ 4765/ 44/ 37/ 41/ 36/ 39/ 18
90/ 5298/ 46/ 38/ 43/ 37/ 42/ 18
100/ 5823/ 48/ 39/ 45/ 38/ 45/ 19


From level 100 only...

Seifer wins: HP, Str, Spr, Spd
Squall wins: Vit, Luck
Ties: Mag

Seifer is stronger while in the party.

[Dr. Acula]

I think they're pretty evenly matched.

And if you don't like Odin being killed by Seifer, why not just get him in disc four instead??

[Marky Tee]

because i didnt know it was gonna happen til it did
cant see into the future
unfortunatly

[Aerith's Knight]

the one on the left.