theres too much proof....especially the freakin ending cutscene....and ummm....yeah just...just lettin ya all know....thats a fact
theres too much proof....especially the freakin ending cutscene....and ummm....yeah just...just lettin ya all know....thats a fact
The lance strikes when it sees fit
Cutting the bonds of the ones we love
In time all shall dissapear
Leaving mass disillusion and despair
Some will find comfort in faith
Struck by unbeheld horrors
Somewhat the vision of a wraith
We all lose the ones we love,the ones we didnt, and the ones we never got the chance to love
But if it wasnt for this lance, striking down its prey
The most beautiful emotion of all would be forever hidden
Sorrow...
for the love of god, plz go and play with serapy/Future esthar.. and dont make a thread like this.. again!!..
Im getting so bored of R=U=Z=S=big black guy
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whycome people keep sayin that even though its been dismissed by the developers?
sure it sounds true and is actualy more interesting than the real storyline
but facts is facts
Indeed... Square say that sorceresses have normal human lifespans; this is canonical info from the Ultimania guidebook. Ultimecia lives "many generations" in the future, to quote the game, so unless she's using Secret Longevity Magic or somesuch, there's no realistic way for the two to be the same person.
The game definitely plays with the risk of Rinoa 'turning evil' like some sorceresses before her; she's afraid of becoming "the world's enemy" like Ultimecia. She also knows that Ultimecia will one day inherit her powers, several generations along down the line. In that way, Rinoa and Ultimecia are 'the same' as each other, though they're not actually the same person.
You don't even need the Ultimania guide to prove that Rinoa is not Ultimecia.
Ok, if it were true, Rinoa likely wouldn't know if she was Ultimecia, but Ultimecia would definately know she is Rinoa. Ultimecia tries to kill Rinoa at the end of disc 1. If Ultimecia is Rinoa, killing herself in the past would negate her existence in the future and her whole plan for time compression and consuming all of the pieces of the Great Hyne would be shot. If Ultimecia were Rinoa, she wouldn't try to kill herself. End of story.
I think that the game could have taken an interesting plot twist if the story developers and writers had taken it that way, but, alas, they did not, and several facts from the Ultimania disprove any notion of Rinoa and Ultimecia being the same person.
Ultimecia has very little backstory. I wonder if clarifying and elaborating on her, as a character, would slowly eliminate this theory?
I believe in the power of humanity.
Nah, this is true sh*t, a friend of my cousin told me about it...
Unfortunately, the "she wouldn't kill herself" thing has been presented before, and is generally discounted by an "Ultimecia would do anything 'cause she's completely nuts". Logic doesn't usually come into these threads, which is why I simply directed him to the "read before posting" thread.
Aerith's Knight: I'm a "he".
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There's something about evidence you need to know.
If the counter-evidence over-weighs the evidence by a million then the evidence really doesn't matter.
I say, if Ultimecia was sane enough to feel a threat to her own existance then she's sane enough to know not to kill herself.Unfortunately, the "she wouldn't kill herself" thing has been presented before, and is generally discounted by an "Ultimecia would do anything 'cause she's completely nuts". Logic doesn't usually come into these threads, which is why I simply directed him to the "read before posting" thread.
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It's not like with Sephiroth, X-Death, Zeromus or Kefka where they all want to destroy the world knowing they're going with it. Granted it could be argued that Sephiroth and Kefka were under the delusions that even if the planets were destroyed they would live because they acheived god status by the point of the planets destruction (Personally, I think they'd destroy the world wether or not they gained immortal power because they -are- insane), but either way, Ultimecia wanted to compress time, not blow up the world and destroy her own existance. Her whole deal is to stop her own death via SeeD, not to do world takeover.
Her goals were for self-preservation not worldly destruction. (And yeah, you can get the whole "OMG TIME COMPRESSION WOULD DESTROY THE WORLD IN TIME" but I'm talking about the kind of world destruction where she -PURPOSELY- makes it so the ENTIRE planet CEASES to exist without taking TIME or her life into consideration.)