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Here are my reasons why Rinoa is not Ultimecia:

1) There is resemblance, but they are clearly not the same person (find two photos next to each other that disproves this, not anything with transition effects).
One of the Final Fantasy 8 graphic designers have created one blank character model, he duplicated it into so many models for the FF8 characters, meaning that each duplicated model is exact the same. Other FF8 designers then finish modelling and rendering each blank model for each character. In the end, this is how each character's face size is the same, the eyes size look the same, etc, go figures. So concluding that looking for a photo to match Ulitimecia's face is not sufficient enough to prove something.

However, there's something you have to consider:

Why does Zell have tattoos on his face, smiliar to Ultimecia and Adel? While all the other characters don't have tattoos. The game didn't explain much about this question, but lets move on to the next question:

Why does Rinoa have white wings and Ultimecia have black wings? Why do it have to be Rinoa, not someone else? Rinoa having White Wing, things from white wing and black wing are similar to each other. E.g. Squall wanting to be Rinoa's knight.

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2) Their personalities are completely different. Rinoa is bubbly & warm, happy to live in the moment. Ultimecia is dark & broody & depressed & so scared of losing something she'd rather be alone (sounds more like Squall than anybody else). From a literary perspective, there is no way such a change would occur. Why would they (being Square) build up a character in such a way, when we are supposed to infer that she completely changes?

3) Many people who propose they are the same person suggest that the reason Rinoa became evil was because she lost Squall. So: why does she constantly try to kill him? Both as Edea and herself. Why does she want to be completely alone? Surely she'd want to be with Squall.

4) This is tied into 3. Proponents of this theory also say that Rinoa's line in the Ragnarok, which she says this moment stayed still forever, is linked to Ultimecia saying time doesn't stay still. Same argument as 3. Why choose to compress time so only she could exist if she could rather be with Squall? Surely, if she was so depressed over Squall, she'd rather die than be alone for all eternity.

5) Ultimecia can go back into time and possess different sorceresses. Again, if Rinoa is Ultimecia, why didn't she possess herself to protect Squall.


White wing represents good.
Black wing represents evil.

If Rinoa had white wing, which explains why Rinoa was always lovable towards Squall, even Squall's acts were appalling (not necessary) towards Rinoa, Rinoa always have loved him no matter what happen. Rinoa has done "good" things, she NEVER has done any bad thing, it's almost as if she's a perfect person.

If Rinoa had black wing, she will be ALWAYS evil (not lovable) towards Squall and other people. She has done "bad" things to people, even Rinoa herself. Suicide is evil (just in case if Ultimecia killed Rinoa). The goals of black wing are always evil.

Have you seen the Time Compression tunnel? It was filled with "black" wings. It's like black wing is having a war with white wing. White wing revived Squall at the end, and so on.

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6) Odine says that Ultimecia lives many generations in the future. Seeing that this would be substantially longer than one's average lifespan, it would be unusual if Rinoa was a) alive & b) very young. And looking different at the same time.
It's either:

1) Rinoa is actually a descendant of Ultimecia. Leading her to have the same powers as Ultimecia.

2) Time Compression. It causes timelines to compress, multiplying the past timeline (the past) between another timeline (the future), making the timespan of Rinoa longer.

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Do I need to continue? You can argue that this theory is possible. & yes, it is possible. It is also possible that every event in the game is a dream that Squall/Quistis/Matron/the sick nurse was having, just as it is possible that we're all actually living in the Matrix. Is it probable/plausible. I don't think so.
Disproving R=U is basically the same thing as proving R is not U, because both have flaws.