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Statistically (based on years and sorceresses), chances of TC happening for the first time (the one we saw from the game) are quite slim.
There is not enough information in Final Fantasy VIII to bring inferential statistics into this discussion.
The game did state some information about Hyne. The human race must have started since when, thousands of years ago? Take that into consideration and it would make sense.

Anyway, when Ultimecia needed to cast Time Compression, she needed to cast it in 3 places in time. She was only able to reach the point furthest in the past through the use of Ellone. As the game states that the Junction Machine Ellone cannot go far enough back in time for the purpose of time compression, and that there is only one recorded person who can go back in time (Ellone), it is unlikely that any other sorceress could cast time compression.
1,000 years and Ellone just happen to be the first person to have this "mysterious" power? I don't know but it doesn't seem right. I'm going to try to explain why and how Ultimecia chose Ellone:

Matron gained powers off Ultimecia.

Squall and his friends were given birth, including Ellone and then came to the orphanage and being looked after by Matron.

Matron gains knowledge about these individuals, including Ellone.

((At this point, if Ellone knew that she has the special ability, then maybe that would explain why she left the orphanage mostly because of Matron having Ultimecia's powers.))

Later in the game, Matron was possessed by Ultimecia. Ultimecia reads her mind and all of sudden, she finds this special information about Ellone. That's when Ultimecia found out about Ellone and began looking for her.

What I'm saying is that if Ultimecia can find someone like Ellone, then the past Sorceresses with the equal powers as Ulti can do too.
And anyway, let's assume time compression had occured before. If it had, all events and people would be compressed into one unit of time. This means that there could be no movement through time by these people. Because thee could be no movement in time, this means that none of the events in Final Fantasy VIII could have occured. So, this assumption is found false under evidence, and must be rejected. Therefore, time compression has not EVER happened.
Events would not have occured? Time Compression doesn't get rid of any event, it just simply combine everything into one (according to Dr Odine). The game didn't explictly state what would happen if Ultimecia successed her plan. And I don't think TC is permanent.

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Time Compression has never happened in the game. People can't live in a fully time compressed world. The game states it. Ultimecia tried to, but could only do it with Ellone (the game never states there is another Ellone in the past so saying there is one would be a whole new theory, theories can't exist of other theories), since no sorceress had ever had Ellone no Sorceress could even attempt Time Compression.

Again start using dialogue from the actual storyline, not theories upon thoeries.
Ultimecia did start Time Compression during near the end of the game. There are some evidences to support this: the FMV of TC demonstrated a tunnel of Time Compression which means that it has just began (also when you view the file name, it has a word of TC), the time loop and Squall and his party went into TC via JME so that they can travel to the future to fight Ultimecia (non-compressed time).

In the end, when Ultimecia become defeated. She began uncompressing time so that she can go back to the past and pass her powers onto Edea. At that exact point, what do you think what would happen if Ultimecia rejected giving her powers to any body?
This impact has created a time loop and it will repeat, mostly due to the Time Compression.