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[Psychotic]

It would be pretty foolish if Laddy, NeoCracker, and I were all working together on this, because it would connect us all and lead to our quick demise once you turned out to be the real cop.

Correct. Perhaps one of you and Cracker is town, and the other one used the other one's pushes to get me investigated for devious purposes.

Especially since you didn't even bother to consider the possibility of insane cop or paranoid cop

Didn't I?

or you might be paranoid or insane

You say that no townie is expendable, so wouldn't you want to try to get some other kind of scum vibe from Laddy before jumping on him?

Correct, no townie is expendable, and from my position I saw it as him or me - I know I'm town, I don't know for certain if he is. I would rather sacrifice a paranoid/insane cop for a sane cop. I think I am sane and not naive because clearly Laddy is not sane, and I don't think we'd have two crazy cops in this game.

qwerty says he has a plan to figure out who is the real cop. If you guys want to go with that, cool, I'm willing to do that as long as whatever doctor out there protects qwerty to prevent tampering with that result. At the end of the day, I suppose it does prevent the lynch of a townie if Laddy is insane/paranoid, and if he isn't, then it only postpones his lynch by a day. Because we hit scum yesterday, I guess we can afford a day of waiting.

Otherwise if you all want to lynch either me or Laddy then I'll fight my corner as best I can and hope you can see my loyalties lie firmly with the town.

[Del Murder]

Dammit, I was hoping for some insight from Levian on this.

Sorry, Psychotic, I did not see you mention the possibility of insanity. You also mention that he should have checked his sanity first. Can I ask why you did not do that either, and instead investigated Dynast-Kid?

What was qwerty's plan for figuring it out? Both of you investigate him? You are willing to do that if we hold of on you or Laddy for this day's lynch?

[Goldenboko]

atm I'm leaning toward lynching Laddy.

I'm thinking that this might be...

The mafia just trying to get rid of Psychotic, then having their last player beat us all (my bet is there is only 3 mafians but I could be wrong). If this is the case, my bet Del or Levian would be that last member otherwise they wouldn't be so confident with that plan.

If Laddy turns up cop then Psychotic is definitely a good candidate for scum.

[Del Murder]

imo I think it is a foolish strategy to sacrifice your only remaining mafia buddy on day 2 and expect to get yourself all the way to the end, and it's not something I would employ. Think about it, man, do you think I could possibly convince the town to lynch an innocent once we get down to a 3-4 man game? I'd be bleeding red by that time.

[Psychotic]

Sorry, Psychotic, I did not see you mention the possibility of insanity. You also mention that he should have checked his sanity first. Can I ask why you did not do that either, and instead investigated Dynast-Kid?

I meant he should have checked his sanity before claiming I was guilty. I would not have claimed if Dynast turned up scum, instead I would have pushed for his lynch and used that to gauge either my sanity or who defended him if he survived the lynch.

What was qwerty's plan for figuring it out? Both of you investigate him? You are willing to do that if we hold of on you or Laddy for this day's lynch?

I'm guessing he has a special role that enables him to find such things out. I am willing to do that, and obviously if I die tonight you guys have to lynch Laddy the next day, or if he dies then I'm pretty certain I'll be cleared. (I know you guys don't know that, so just for argument's sake, if he dies and comes up cop, lynch me)

[Goldenboko]

imo I think it is a foolish strategy to sacrifice your only remaining mafia buddy on day 2 and expect to get yourself all the way to the end, and it's not something I would employ.

It would be a weird strategy but I'm seeing it as possible, especially with Lev's failure to respond (conveniently drunk xD)

Also now that I think about it.... with 12 people its possible that the mafia could have 4 members... unlikely but possible.

[qwertysaur]

Oh, my plan is simple, you both investigate me tonight, and we set up a time where you both post your result at the same time. I'll say one thing, my role will allow me to see if someone is lying. Asking any questions about it will result in a ... from me.

[Del Murder]

I'm guessing he has a special role that enables him to find such things out. I am willing to do that, and obviously if I die tonight you guys have to lynch Laddy the next day, or if he dies then I'm pretty certain I'll be cleared. (I know you guys don't know that, so just for argument's sake, if he dies and comes up cop, lynch me)

What role would that be? I know you are speculating, but I am unfamiliar with a role that can tell the sanity of cops.

EDIT: Oh, I think I know what qwerty's planning. I'd like to hear from someone other than the four of us, though.

[Goldenboko]

I'm guessing he has a special role that enables him to find such things out. I am willing to do that, and obviously if I die tonight you guys have to lynch Laddy the next day, or if he dies then I'm pretty certain I'll be cleared. (I know you guys don't know that, so just for argument's sake, if he dies and comes up cop, lynch me)

What role would that be? I know you are speculating, but I am unfamiliar with a role that can tell the sanity of cops.

There could already be some kind of restriction on his role, or info in his role PM, that make him being insane or naive implausible. EX. "You step down once you find mafia."

Considering Psychotic posted, "If he comes up Cop, lynch me." he does seem pretty confident, so perhaps that intels he does have something like that in his PM. Although to play devil's advocate, he can be saying that so we lynch a Cop.

What makes me very wary is Laddy's lack of following up on his claim.

If Laddy is Mafia, then he might be afraid of messing up and having Psychotic crush his mafia :P

I say...

## Vote: Laddy

Psychotic goes down if he turns cop.

EDIT: I dun know what qwerty has in store Dx but it appears to be something good so...

## unvote

[Psychotic]

I don't think he wants speculation as to his role so I'm not going to do that.

Anyway I'm going to unvote Laddy because I think qwerty's plan is the best course of action. I'll put my vote right back on him though if it looks like most of the players do not want to go along with it.

##unvote

EDIT: Apparently GB disagrees. As I said, I am willing to put my vote back.

[Goldenboko]

Nah, I was making my post while qwerty posted.

[Del Murder]

So, are we trying to say that if you both investigate qwerty he will be able to know who is lying? Is that the plan? If so we still need someone to lynch.

[Goldenboko]

I think killing off an inactive wouldn't be a bad idea.

[Del Murder]

That would be Lancelot. Wasn't he under scrutiny for being inactive the last game?

[Goldenboko]

Yes he was, I get scared with players who are always inactive, because if they're inactive and mafia then the town has a problem.