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    Actually, FF is correct. Well, according to gamerankings and metacritic, FFIX is the highest reviewed FF. Only by like, one percent though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivisteiner View Post
    Actually, FF is correct. Well, according to gamerankings and metacritic, FFIX is the highest reviewed FF. Only by like, one percent though.
    Yay, statistics for the win!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivisteiner View Post
    Actually, FF is correct. Well, according to gamerankings and metacritic, FFIX is the highest reviewed FF. Only by like, one percent though.
    That means less then nothing. At least 5 thousand other sites (gamestop for example), will rate FFVII and VIII higher.

    Basically what I'm saying is, other peoples opinions don't prove anything when debating for a topic.

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    ^Well those are those sites compare the proper critics reviews, which have more objectivity about them. (But still not enough).

    I'd say the one percent is meaningless though, not the reviews in themselves. That was why I did a .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivisteiner View Post
    Actually, FF is correct. Well, according to gamerankings and metacritic, FFIX is the highest reviewed FF. Only by like, one percent though.
    That means less then nothing. At least 5 thousand other sites (gamestop for example), will rate FFVII and VIII higher.

    Basically what I'm saying is, other peoples opinions don't prove anything when debating for a topic.
    his point was that it was the aggregate.

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    I really don't feel its plausible to rank a games value simply on reviews I'm afraid. If that was the case, VII would be the last good FF game in the series except for the few publications (including Famitsu) who feel XII is in fact the greatest FF game in the series. As we all know, fans are abit split on the idea of saying one or the other is "the best"

    Though I agree that as of now I feel XII is the best in the series (despite not being my favorite) it only replaces what I felt was the best game in the franchise before which was IX (once again, not my top FF but a damn good game nonetheless). The point is, I never saw any value in using reviews as some form of hard evidence. Bad games still sell millions despite poor reviews and great games (with great reviews) bankrupt companies cause of low sales.

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    I really don't feel its plausible to rank a games value simply on reviews I'm afraid. If that was the case, VII would be the last good FF game in the series except for the few publications (including Famitsu) who feel XII is in fact the greatest FF game in the series.
    Thats not really true. Every FF after VII has received critical acclaim from 'official' reviewers such as IGN, Gamespot, Famitsu, 1UP etc. Thats why the aggregates are approximately as follows:

    FFVII: 92%
    FFVIII: 88%
    FFIX: 94%
    FFX: 92%
    FFXII: 92%

    From what I can remember off the top of my head (I look at this kind of stuff - I'm that sad ).

    Anyway, the reviews are probably high because Square bribed them.

    The point is, I never saw any value in using reviews as some form of hard evidence
    I guess the problem is that you can never look at a game completely objectively. It is an artistic medium and so it lots of it is subjective. There are some parts of a game that can be objectively measured, such as controls, however. And 'official' reviewers are supposed to look at them and try and be as objective as possible. Of course, reviewers rarely are that good.

    Trying to work out how good a game is is very difficult. But by looking at basic stuff like the controls, gameplay systems etc you can come to a more objective decision. Still though, stuff like GTA rates extremely highly, yet I wouldnt call GTA IV the best game ever.

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    I agree that its truly difficult to review a game objectively since its also an artistic medium. Hell, GTA is a wonderful example as I have always felt that it was an overall mediocre series yet it gets 10 and five gold stars from everyone. :rolleyes2

    Despite this, I recognize IX as a great game and I felt it was easily the strongest entry in the PS1 generation. I know it gets nailed for being a rehash of old ideas but I do feel it brought something much needed to the series: Balance.

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    In an entirely off what is being spoken of now topic, I did not care for the ability system in VIII or IX. VII definitely beat the later games out by far on that point. However, IX, in my opinion, far surpassed the other games in story depth, side-story depth, mini-game development, and nostalgia. There was so much to do in IX that I am always excited for my next replay after beating the game.

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    VII, VIII and IX were all good, but IX stayed closest to it's roots. VII and VIII were games on an expedition for new things and new fans. Was IX as good as VII and VIII? Well, I think so, but it really depends on which group of FF junkies you are talking to. I'm an FFIV, FFVI and FFXII junkie more than the rest. The original PSOne FFs were better than some, but they'd take my middle fav spot. I like the PS1 games all for different reasons, but I loathe certain things about each of them too.

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    Actually i am the opposite of your opinion. I hated 7 and 8 but i love 9 and think it is the best final fantasy.
    so no, i think that final fantasy 9 was very fun and interesting, but i found 7 and 8 to be boring and dull.
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