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    That's fine, negatives to most people are positives to me. I have weighed the issues and... not decided yet!

    Difficult for new players is a positive thing. I approve of that. The only issue is finding people who I might know or want to know AND who will play at the same (very awkward) times as me. If I could ensure this, I'd almost certainly get it.

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    Well, you never know until you give it a shot. I don't know if they're still doing it, but I remember seeing starter discs at Gamestop which offered the base game for just a couple dollars. Even if those aren't available any more, your first month is free. So if you don't like it the most you'll have lost is thirty bucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germ Hamee View Post
    Well, you never know until you give it a shot. I don't know if they're still doing it, but I remember seeing starter discs at Gamestop which offered the base game for just a couple dollars. Even if those aren't available any more, your first month is free. So if you don't like it the most you'll have lost is thirty bucks.
    I was at Gamestop two days ago, and they had a couple of these discs available. I think if anything, this would be the best way to find out whether or not the game is for you.

    Also, there's always someone to play with in FFXI, no matter what hour you're playing. Back when I still played, I'd get a party during the U.S. prime time. By the time that had completely died down, Japanese prime time was just starting up and I'd hop on over to another party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdon333 View Post
    this is game is just so boring to me...it almost ruined FF games forever for me
    i dont like only being able to party up...i like mmo's that you can solo even being ur first time to play...this one has way more grinding than any mmo ive played b4 as well
    I hope you realise FFXI was released when MMO's were relatively new (Ultima, EQ, L2, etc). It wasn't until WoW, GW and a crap load of Korean F2P MMO's were introduced that they become 'casual' play.

    I think people are just dumb when they say things like "it ruins the whole Final Fantasy series for me!" when it's just a name, and it just happens to have a number tacked on it. It has no bearing on other Final Fantasy games.

    By the way, my time zone is Japanese prime time. There are hardly ever any English speaking players during this time, and it gets very lonely.


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    I only play late at night myself, sometimes that kinda sucks, since people start going to bed as soon as I sign on. The game is still very playable, though, especially with Campaign.

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    To be honest, it's not really a huge monetary investment. The game discs go for close to nothing, and those include a month of free play too. After then, you're free to quit at any time if you feel that it's not worth the money.

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    If your idea of enjoying the game is completing all of the missions and quests that the game has to offer, then you might not enjoy it as the time requirements for you will be too high.

    If your idea of enjoying the game is being able to play with family, friends, or co-workers in a fantasy environment, regardless of your pace in the game, you will be perfectly fine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen Bleys View Post
    But 90% of people would rather bitch and moan and ignore the positives, even in a game that's got a high positive-negative ratio.
    What kept me on the game despite the negatives was the music, and the artwork, and the cities, and environments, and places.

    Pretty much exploration and playing the market kept me on the game. I got my bard to level 45 and stopped caring about lvling up and doing missions (was rank 6).
    I might've missed out since I stopped playing 2 years ago, but I did a lot of exploring that most of the players don't do, or try to do because they play the game so linearly. The game itself was so Japanese as the mindset of the players were driven to at lvl 10 you must at all cost goto the dunes. I mean ignore the mazes if you're from windy. Ignore bubumuru. I mean just ignore that whole region, and take a 2 hour run out of your way to selbina to get a party in the dunes. At lvl 20 you can finally head to Jeuno and get your choco license, and then level up at Qufim. Then at lvl 25 you get to fight and brave the jungles. That's the part that decides rather players quit or keep on going. Once you hit lvl 30 the game goes a lot smoother, and once you get into the 50s the players get well less sociable unless you're in a LS and in which hopefully you interact with players that have lives because then you won't be dealing with less sociable ones.

    If you want to lvl up fast play with the Japanese players, but listen to them and do it the way they tell you to do it, and don't question (use to live in Japan and had to learn to do this in Japan because trust me it's for the best and makes things easier.). It'll be a lot of work and a lot of hours, but you can go from lvl 10 to lvl 20 in one night with them because of how they cracked the game. BAsically the game was designed around their culture, and their culture is extremely group oriented. And if you don't get the invites then you really can't do anything, but of course SE made sure to accomodate its western gamers, but usually things are harder if you want to try and go about doing your own thing on here.

    With that being said this game isn't all that negative. Aside from the sight seeing, the people kept me on this game the longest. NA and even EU players are really friendly. I use to play with some friends I knew when I use to live in Turkey. We had tons of fun, and it was enjoyable. Ultimately your circles (Linkshells) is what keeps you in the game for as long as you do. As we all deal with the same BS and we are more willing to be a lot more lenient towards each other, and more willing to help and understand each other. Jerkoffs and non-social people get outcast fast, and it's usually if you're extremely rude.
    Also be nice and you will go far in this game because trust me you build a name for yourself on the server you play on as you progress because the higher you go up in lvls the less players there are in your lvl and rank.

    I was a BRD/THF and caught a lot of flack for it. I performed better than the Brds who sub it with the usual WHM. It was a lot of work, but it was worth it if I was allowed to do my own thing, and enjoy playing the game for once instead of having to lvl up my WHM (which I didn't want to do because I hate mage jobs).

    With that being said. You should prepare to work hard, and always remember that when the game gets slow. Go sight seeing. I mean travel throughout vana'diel and the near east. Go see all of the sights. This game is amazing and a large percentage of what is out there on the game goes unseen, or unexplored by many of the players because people get caught up into the rat race. I found so many places were I could secretly get access to resources that sold for a lot in the markets that I just explored and played wallstreet on FFXI. Made a lot of gil. I mean tons of it. Atleast 50 mil.

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    You can get a good 6000+ exp/hour solo these days if you know how to :p, and you don't need the awesomest of gears or being high level either. :p
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    Just play a BRD, you can go naked and still get good exp.

    Seriously. I partied with a 63 BRD once who didn't have Ballad 2, any gear his level, and only melee'ed and cast a single song like once an hour. It's scary what people let support jobs get away with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    You can get a good 6000+ exp/hour solo these days if you know how to , and you don't need the awesomest of gears or being high level either.
    That statement is true, but, at the same time, the game has a fairly high learning curve and you cannot expect to solo without gaining adequate gameplay experience. The game was not made with the intent to fight alone.
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    One more question, which I don't think has been answered: what is the penalty for death?

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    Starting at level 5 it's 10% of your exp which eventually caps to like 2000 exp lost total or something. It's not that big of a deal really, just inconvenient later on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahamut2000X View Post
    Starting at level 5 it's 10% of your exp which eventually caps to like 2000 exp lost total or something. It's not that big of a deal really, just inconvenient later on.
    I believe beyond level 50 it drops down to 8%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nozkits View Post
    I was a BRD/THF and caught a lot of flack for it. I performed better than the Brds who sub it with the usual WHM. It was a lot of work, but it was worth it if I was allowed to do my own thing, and enjoy playing the game for once instead of having to lvl up my WHM (which I didn't want to do because I hate mage jobs).
    Except that /THF brings absolutely nothing to the party whatsoever, and any Bard that can play his/her job right will do a lot better if they subbed something that complimented it such as White Mage. It's a shame that you hate mage jobs, because Bard is pretty much a mage (support) job.



    By the way, I highly suspect you are someone that got banned from here for being a total douche. Lordblaser... Lordblazer... Something... Something...? I'm probably wrong, just suspicious.



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