thats what Im talking about...and I didnt mention any FF games because yeah they sold great by themselves but they had a good background and that helped sell them, but most of the games like legend of dragoon I dont remember having a past game of them and all that was heard was the story line...you all know what I mean stop getting all defensive Im just wanting to get the older games credit that they still deserve, games that are on the PS1, and other consoles, that you would still be willing to pick up at anytime and play