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    I could care less about vegetarians as long as they keep to themselves or don't push their beliefs on me. To each his/her own.

    I could never give up, meat, though.

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    I tried for half a month, and it was too painful. There are certain types of protein that make me feel happy in my tummy, and I don't get those from beans and nuts, thanks ><.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagensyg View Post
    Bacon? Add more bacon!
    Needs some sausage and melted cheese bits. Otherwise I would agree. That salad thing is right on the dot.

    Tofu is delicious when done right. But I don't think I'd be able to live on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagensyg View Post
    Escargot? Place some steak on it!
    You would ruin a perfectly good steak with snails?

    ..thats just wrong.

    Although i suppose mushroomsauce on it wouldnt be much different..


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    Sometimes I go for a good week without eating meat without realizing it. But I do enjoy it sometimes, but I prefer free range meat. There aer pleanty of other sources of protein, like nuts, tofu, and milk to name a few.

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    In the netherlands there is dairy based meat that tastes just like chicken. but of course.. awfully expensive


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    Vegetarianism? Fine by me. I eat meat often enough, but if someone chooses a vegetarian diet - and understands the hows and whys - then I support their decision. When I'm cooking for myself, I prepare vegetarian dishes as often as not.

    In response to ethical concerns about livestock treatment: I buy responsibly, favouring producers that are known to look after their animals well. Free-range eggs cost nearly twice as much, but it's worth it, in my opinion.

    It bothers me that vegetarians often claim their diet is wholly ethical to animals, though. Commercial crops are planted by clearing habitable forests or scrub and replacing them with crops; animals lose their habitat and food supply. Harvesting plants for consumption deprives further animals of food. Keeping 'pests' - birds or insects - at bay means that those creatures are forced either to starve, or to relocate to a new location where they'll be competing with the local wildlife. Just because you're not devouring an animal's flesh is no guarantee that your food was produced without animal suffering.

    Nevertheless, there'd be something reassuring about knowing that no animals were directly killed in order for you to eat them. And a vegetarian diet can indeed be just as nutritionally sound, as long as it's done properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahamut2000X View Post
    What's with this humane talk? Their not human ergo they can't be treated humanely. It can be ethical or moral, but not humane when a human isn't involved.

    Am I the only one bothered by the misuse of the word Humane in this context? >.>
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    Wow, I can see there is a few bits of misinformation and lack of knowledge about vegetarism in this thread.

    I am not a vegetarian pr. definition as I eat game and wild fish. But I do not eat any kind of industrial meat, nor do I eat milk or egg (or products that contain those things) that aren't organic. This because I do not think it's wrong to slay and eat animals, as that is how nature works. But I do believe the meat industry is disgusting, to put it gently, and therefore will have as little as possible do with it.
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    I really like meat, but I've many times thought of becoming a vegetarian.. or at least cutting back on the meat. I think the latter is something I'll probably end up doing at some point in the near future.

    Also, organic food ftw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miriel View Post
    If it were made readily available, I would buy 100% free range/grass fed products. I try very hard to get organic and free range meat products whenever I can. And I try not to support fast food chains/restaurants where I know they're not using meat products that were treated humanely before they were prepared for human consumption.

    Cause even though I love eating meat and I would never give it up, I dislike the conditions at a lot of meat producing factories. I fully support a more humane and ethical treatment of animals. Just cause we have to kill 'em to eat 'em doesn't mean that it has to be done cruelly.

    Meat is so so lovely. I couldn't do without it, I just couldn't.
    This I agree with.

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    As for my position now:

    I like meat. I eat meat because I like it, not because I need it or 'need' it. I accept that living beings die for nothing more than my enjoyment, because I know a vegetarian diet can be a complete diet. Putting aside for the moment the issue of how they are treated when alive, I cannot abdicate facing the fact that living beings, some of them very intelligent (Pigs for instance), are dying for my pleasure.

    So I am okay eating meat. I accept that there is blood on my hands. But I try to get meat from farms which treat animals well, too. I don't give a flying frack about organic or any other paranoid hippy dogma/bull marketing strategy like that, but I do look out for free-range stuff, as I believe that does actually matter and make a difference. I'm not deluded into thinking that everything marked free range actually is free range - there's still plenty of bull marketing there - but I believe there is a difference between killing an animal food (Although that is still an ethical issue, it is at least biologically sound to eat meat*) versus torturing an animal (Which I abhor); ideally free range animals have not been tortured.

    * Still, I don't feel comfortable using any argument which essentially boils down to "It's natural". Poisonous snakes are natural. Rape and murder are natural. Cancer is natural. The mere fact that something is natural is not justification for it, so I'm never sure how solid the ground I am on here is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeza View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bahamut2000X View Post
    What's with this humane talk? Their not human ergo they can't be treated humanely. It can be ethical or moral, but not humane when a human isn't involved.

    Am I the only one bothered by the misuse of the word Humane in this context? >.>
    <i>Humane</i> from dictionary.com

    <i>1. characterized by tenderness, compassion, and sympathy for people and animals, esp. for the suffering or distressed: humane treatment of horses.</i>
    Really?

    I got mine from the Webster's Dictionary website. It's a bit different of a definition on there it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahamut2000X View Post
    I don't get vegetarians, in the end they eat plants which are alive. Regardless your hurting a living thing, so might as well taste the more delicious ones.
    I seriously entertain this line of thought, and thus have no moral qualms about eating anything.

    From a nutritional standpoint, eating more vegetables is good for you.

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    The difference between eating a plant and an animal, to me, is that one is sentient, and one is not.

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