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    Why are the bad guys in Final Fantasy "bad" to begin with?

    Sephiroth thought he was an Ancient but now just wants to be like his "mother".

    Ultimecia feared the SeeD who woul dkill her.

    Kuja wanted to prove his existence and to avoid death.

    And I think FF1 Garland was afraid of some prophecy foretelling his death and that's why he did the loop thing.

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    Vayne Solidor was about the only villain who's motivations I could take seriously, so him I guess.

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    Kefka had the best motivation. He did it for the lulz.

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    Vayne Solidor and Kuja. The rest really had crap for motivation xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Crystal View Post
    Kefka had the best motivation. He did it for the lulz.
    Quoted for truth! He most certainly did exactly that! I always liked that about him.

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    i think being crazy is good motivation so tht goes for Kefka and Sephiroth, I mean he was pissed when he found out about Jenova, imagine his disapointment if he met his geeky freaky parents,

    I liked Vayne's motivation and how its similar to Ashe's which gives her that edge of you don't know which way shes going to play it, u couldn't really trust her and i liked that about her, Its only cos she had Vaan, Penelo, Balthier and Fran to guide her that she didn't end up like Vayne, I recon Basch would have been down with it even if she went the other way
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    Sephiroth wasnt crazy, he was just a little lost baby boy, looking for his mummy.

    Kuja and Vayne for me.

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    I loved Zemus' motivation. He wanted Earthlings destroyed so little moon aliens could live on the Blue Planet!

    Then he died. The end.

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    Xande, Kuja and Vayne had the best motivation of all villains, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReloadPsi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Crystal View Post
    Kefka had the best motivation. He did it for the lulz.
    Quoted for truth! He most certainly did exactly that! I always liked that about him.


    Basically Kefka underwent the first experimentations to be infused with magic. Ironically, most can say that he was insane BEFORE that because Cid stated at some point that he chose to undergo it knowing it was completely experimental and it warped his mind. The only person the magic infusion actually worked on was Celes when she was a baby. Asuming that Kefka willingly went up to try out some powers and them getting to the point that they felt safe enough to infuse a baby with magic, .. well his mind was prolly in the can and not coming back.

    The experimentations basically kick started his already insane mind. Now whether or not he would have done everything he did in the game -without- infused magic is really up to you, but he did state at the end of the game that he wanted to make the world a monument to nonexistant and basically how he hated (and didn't understand, shown by questioning the party of their beliefs) how people could live a life knowing they were going to die, how humanity was pointless and the only way to really give a point is for nothing to be there.

    Of course! Then since he never reveals his issues til the VERY end, it can be argued that basically everything he had done (basically everything before gaining the power of the Goddesses) he did on his own will and for the lulz, and it wasn't until he gained ultimate power that he -truly- lost the very very very little bit that was left of his mind. It was clear though that from the beginning he was after the ultimate power, but never clear why until the VERY end. First he wants it and gets it and uses it for world domination and for his own entertainment, then the powerlust turns him to the point of just destroying everything because... well in his mind ridding humans of their flaws by destroying human kind is the only way for humans to serve a purpose. Essentially he's doing what he feels to be true and right, regardless of what morals might say.

    He's complicated and I love him. <3

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    I am going to go with Xande.

    Getting the gift of "mortality" from his mentor? I'd be pretty pissed too. Sure, being able to accept your mortality is poetic and all... But, um, aren't we all mortal to begin with? I understand the way he feels! It's like Doga and Unei both received Wiis, and Xande got a 20$ giftcard to Bed Bath & Beyond.

    I mean... Sure I need bath towels, BUT I ALREADY #$%^ING HAVE EIGHT IN MY CLOSET SO WHY DON'T YOU SHOVE THIS GODDAM GIFT CARD NOAH!!!!

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    Best motivations? I'd have to say Kuja and Vayne.

    With Kuja, you could easily empathize with him, and understand what drove him. He was considered a defect for having a mind of his own, and was going to be discarded as soon as Garland no longer needed him. Then, when he finally achieves his goal, after all that he went through, he finds out that he's about to die. Yeah, I think I'd snap, too.

    Vayne's motives on the other hand, I almost agree with. His intentions (most of them, anyway) were good. Because, lets face it- the Occuria needed to get taken down. It was his methods that were the problem.

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    Kefka is the greatest video game madman of all time, and the third greatest madman of all time, overall. If insanity isn't a good motivating factor, I don't know what is.

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    Best motivation? I'm going with Elpizo and a few others on this one and say its Xande, Kuja, and Vayne. All three had rather sympathetic motives, Vayne especially could be considered an anti-hero rather than a villain.

    Sure some of the other villains have more "fun" motives but "fun" and "good" are two different things. Kefka and Ex-Death are more symbolic as villains rather than having good motives but it explains why these two are definetly the most evil of the batch.

    Worst motive goes to Seymour since the game never really nailed down what it was since it seemed like it changed every time you met him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    Sure some of the other villains have more "fun" motives but "fun" and "good" are two different things. Kefka and Ex-Death are more symbolic as villains rather than having good motives but it explains why these two are definetly the most evil of the batch.
    Kefka did get a reason more then just "Hey I'm crazy for no reason." Kefka was the first to undergo the Magic Infusement, shattering his mind, causing him to go insane.

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