I like my democratic presidential nominees like I like my coffee...

[Rantz]

This subject seems pretty loaded from the replies in this thread. The only thing missing is someone quoting Manus and bashing Murphy's law.

[Heath]

Psychotic is absolutely right and I agree with him entirely. Obama and Clinton differ very little. I think I too would chuckle to myself slightly if Obama lost, but I don't actively hope for it. I'd rather Obama won, but merely because I prefer him to McCain. However, I think McCain will win. I've said several times that I've grown sick and tired of all the Obama lovin' Clinton hatin' on the Internet and I can't be bothered to go into it again, quite frankly. However, I still see Obama as being very much like David Cameron. There's a lot of style, a lot of nice words and a lot of good ideas there, but very few policies to back those up. Change is a great thing and I think it's something American (and indeed Britain) needs, but so far I'm seeing little more than a word. Different than Bush, certainly. But politics run and pursued differently? I'm fairly doubtful.

[Psychotic]

Oh, right. McCain knows what he's talking about.:rolleyes2

All politicans contradict themselves. It's pretty much unavoidable, really.

However, I still see Obama as being very much like David Cameron. There's a lot of style, a lot of nice words and a lot of good ideas there, but very few policies to back those up.

Oh very much yes. Obama and Cameron are kindred spirits.

Also, EoFF, you are the worst. The laughing at Obama fanatics thing was a light-hearted throwaway comment and I trusted none of you to take it seriously, and now look how low you've made me sink. I'm debating politics on the internet.

In conclusion, Barack Hussein Obama is a crazy muslim terrist who will destroy our freedom and also I am pretty sure he sells crack to kids. Also, cats are vermin, anime sucks, and I hate gay marriage.

[Rantz]

What's wrong with anime

[Clouded Sky]

Oh Psy, I love you. I will be very sad if McCain wins, but I can always move if that happens.

But seriously Paul,

anime sucks

YOU WIN!

[Shoeberto]

In conclusion, Barack Hussein Obama is a crazy muslim terrist who will destroy our freedom and also I am pretty sure he sells crack to kids. Also, cats are vermin, anime sucks, and I hate gay marriage.

You picked the wrong saloon to pick a fight at, partner. These colors don't run.

For the honor of my Cowboy Bebop DVD collection, I curse at you!

[Psychotic]

Anime sucks because it's unrealistic. It's all in Japanese. Who the hell speaks Japanese?

Honestly...I think I would prefer Obama winning to McCain. But I do not think McCain is as bad as he is portrayed by the internet community. I do dig a couple of his policies.

[NeoCracker]

In conclusion, Barack Hussein Obama is a crazy muslim terrist who will destroy our freedom and also I am pretty sure he sells crack to kids. Also, cats are vermin, anime sucks, and I hate gay marriage.

You picked the wrong saloon to pick a fight at, partner. These colors don't run.

For the honor of my Cowboy Bebop DVD collection, I curse at you!

Thanks for reminding my over half my collection got jacked, and my Bebop was part of it. (Though oddly they didn't take the movie.)

For the Honor of my lost Bebop, and my near complete collection of Miyazaki, I shall join in the cursing.

[Shoeberto]

Honestly...I think I would prefer Obama winning to McCain. But I do not think McCain is as bad as he is portrayed by the internet community. I do dig a couple of his policies.

I used to be a big fan of McCain, and I wonder if a lot of the stuff he's saying now is just a ruse to get the conservative vote so he can return to his old stances once he's in office. I mean, a once-POW who used to be staunchly anti-torture showing support during the water-boarding fiasco raises some eyebrows.

[Old Manus]

I'm skeptical over the 'change' that all these politicians are promising to make happen immediately after they gain power. Gordon Brown didn't shut up about his 'Age of Change' when he was appointed, and now the recent bi-elections turned into more of a 'bye-bye' election.

tl;dr I'm not left wing

[Germ Hamee]

Additionally, it would be stupid for Obama to pick HRC as his VP candidate. Approx 50% of voters have a negative view of Clinton

And ignore the other 50% that may have a negative view of Obama for the sake of making a point.

I'll be voting for Obama over McCain, but he still makes me really nervous. He talks pretty, but hasn't done much to convince me that he has anything substantial behind his glorious speeches about change. Worse yet, his supporters act like religious fanatics. I'm honestly just getting tired of all the Obama hype and Clinton bashing going on.

I, for one, would feel much more comfortable voting for him if Clinton's on the ticket. It's unlikely that it will happen, but I think it's the best option to keep the party united. I really doubt that Obama would lose enough votes for choosing her to worry about his chances at winning the election. His supporters are going to vote for him either way.

[Clouded Sky]

Additionally, it would be stupid for Obama to pick HRC as his VP candidate. Approx 50% of voters have a negative view of Clinton

And ignore the other 50% that may have a negative view of Obama for the sake of making a point.

a lot of Clinton supporters dislike Obama so much that even if she was teh VP they wouldn't vote democratic.

Oh, I'm sorry? Did this not make sense. There were no statistics in the article, but there are a ton of people that won't vote for Obama even if he is paired with Hilary because they dislike him, and another significant chunk that wouldn't vote for Obama if HRC was the VP because they dislike her. So really, putting those two together would be a disaster because then you ostracize two large blocks of voters as opposed to one.

[Germ Hamee]

Sorry, that wasn't directed so much at you as it was at Carter.

[fire_of_avalon]

Obama supporters will do whatever Obama tells them to do.

I'm voting No Confidence in November unless I'm impressed by a third-party candidate. Or I'll vote for that lady on the street here that's running because I sure as hell like her more than I like Obama or McCain.

[Ouch!]

I love how you hopped on that Rye :D 'Cept i was more of talking about policies rather than just race. Also I was refering to the subject of how millions of Germans didn't know what was going on during the holocaust. Sorry I didn't specify for ya honey. But we're not talking about the exact thing and comparing the two of them in this thread. I was mere stating the fact that from the way Obama talks I can't gather much from him but it's inspirational.

Rye's quotes are not exclusively focused on race. If you can't see that simply by reading the quotes from the respective speeches, there's really not use trying to explain it. Obama is fairly explicit in his intended policies. Perhaps you should read through his victory speech posted in this thread. If you can't gather much about his platform after that... well, I don't know what to say.

Honey, she added one in there as I was typing xD As a person who isn't really into politics listening to a really long speech where the first ten minutes are how great it was getting this far..... yeah i'm gonna close that.

And dear god i'm not bashing the guy, i'm gonna freaking vote for him and I was going to from the start. I was just trying to bring the point that he's persuasive like Hitler was. I wasn't saying he was going to kill off a bunch of people or anything. Just saying he has the power to sway the people.

EDIT: nor do I want to read it. It looked too long. and I'm lazy

If you're too lazy to read through a relatively short speech (and thus render yourself unable to respond with an informed opinion), it's probably best that you not not make such strong comparisons. It's inviting people to tear you apart.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, every politician has the power to sway the people. You can't be a good politician unless you possess such an ability.