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    Saw it at last night's midnight showing and enjoyed it throughly. Ledger's performance as Joker was deserving of all the praise it has been getting. It is disappointing that they can no longer have a Joker in the Batman films, because I do not see Ledger's performance being topped, at least not a long time.

    (SPOILER)As far as Two-Face being dead, I highly doubt it. Joker and Two-Face are the core Batman villains and without them, the Bat is nothing. Minor villains can be introduced but you cannot make a movie out of them unless they somehow included Ra's al Ghul and the league of shadows again. I took the final funeral scene as more of a "death of Harvey Dent" rather than death of the character all together. Two-Face lives as far as I'm concerned. He is too great of a villain to die from a fall such as that.

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    After thinking a bit more I've come up with some things that would work for a third film.

    (SPOILER)I no longer think Two-Face is dead. Honestly, it's possible that they originally had a funeral scene for him but cut that out once Ledger died, realizing that they couldn't lose Batman's two primary villains in one film.

    But I still don't see why the Penguin wouldn't work for a third film, as a secondary villain. He's no more than another gangster in the comics, not deformed like in Batman Returns. The difference is that, in the later comics, Batman tolerates the Penguin's minor crimes because his club provides information for Batman for more sinister plots. If you were to juxtaposition the Penguin against a bigger foe, like Two-Face or the Riddler, you would bring up questions about Batman that are at least serious and non-gimmicky. If the Penguin's freedom offers Batman an opportunity to stop a more sinister evil, is that compromising on your ideals? Are some evils more tolerable than others?

    I dunno, just theorizing, I suppose.

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    I... I just... *pees*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al View Post
    I... I just... *pees*
    Ya it's just that good.
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    smurfing amazing. I was expecting a lot, and it surpassed even that. There was sooo much more movie there than I was expecting. Am I the only numbnuts that had no idea Two-Face was in this movie? I squealed.

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    I watched it again today, there's a <img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" />load of dialouge that makes more sense the second time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Germ Hamee View Post
    smurfing amazing. I was expecting a lot, and it surpassed even that. There was sooo much more movie there than I was expecting. Am I the only numbnuts that had no idea Two-Face was in this movie? I squealed.
    Nah, there were a million people who were all "O=" but like..

    I didn't know if Two Face himself was in this movie (I assumed that (SPOILER)It was possible for Harvy to get in the accident RIGHT BEFORE the end, to leave an opening for Two Face to take more of a main main part in the next movie.) but when it got to the part where (SPOILER)Rachel and him were surrounded by gas/oil barrels and only one was going to "live" I knew.
    The only thing that annoyed me, is that (SPOILER)I thought Two Face's ENTIRE side of the body was suppose to be burned, and it turns out it was -really- only his face, even though his ENTIRE side was drenched in gas, when I say this, it's because when he's talking to Gordon's family it seems that his hand on the burnt side is perfectly normal. Unless it was a glove that looked exactly like what his hand should look like..it doesn't make sense.
    Did anyone else notice that or am I just being a stickler on details.

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    Avarice... your n00bness is breaking my balls.

    (SPOILER)It's just his face and then his suit got burned a bit. His hands were tied behind his back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al View Post
    Avarice... your n00bness is breaking my balls.

    (SPOILER)It's just his face and then his suit got burned a bit. His hands were tied behind his back.
    Ohh I see. I guess I just can't imagine (SPOILER)gas being poured on one whole side of the body (which is what it LOOKED like when the gas kept spilling), and the fire only staying on the face/neck area.

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    Huh? Because I'm too smurfing stupid to put my own spoiler tagsThe gas was falling down the side of the barrel, and Harvey pushed his face against it. That's it.

    If the gasoline on the floor spread out a lot, his pant legs might have gotten wet. Otherwise, it's tough for it to cover him too much considering he was tied up with his hands behind his back.

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    (SPOILER)It didn't. Like I said, his suit was burnt too. Batman put it out before it burned his body, as in accordance with the laws of proper villain creation.

    You're like my poor husband. Last night all us nerds were standing around gushing and my husband had no idea what was going on. We were talking about how they wouldn't properly show Gordon's daughter and he was musing on how little they must've paid the actress to be met with a bunch of blank stares. xD

    ETAIf I remember correctly, Raist, Harvey also fell on his side on the floor, which probably got the entire side of his body pretty wet, but his hands were still behind his back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    Huh? (SPOILER)The gas was falling down the side of the barrel, and Harvey pushed his face against it. That's it.

    If the gasoline on the floor spread out a lot, his pant legs might have gotten wet. Otherwise, it's tough for it to cover him too much considering he was tied up with his hands behind his back.
    (SPOILER)I remember him like sputtering to breathe at some point because the flow from the gas was epic (or maybe just because he was trying to stop it with his face). I'm prolly wrong though, but the sputtering + flowing gas made me assume it went further than his face.

    But I seriously think I'm looking to much into it.

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    (SPOILER)He was "sputtering" because he was trying to drink it so that he would die and Rachel would be the one to live. It wasn't flowing much at all, which is why his suicide attempt failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al View Post
    (SPOILER)He was "sputtering" because he was trying to drink it so that he would die and Rachel would be the one to live. It wasn't flowing much at all, which is why his suicide attempt failed.
    Damn, I need to watch the movie again. That makes a lot more sense now.

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    Yeah, I feel like I need to see it again. It was so fast-paced it's easy to miss a lot.

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