It's really very simple. These two Batman movies (Batman Begins and The Dark Knight) have absolutely nothing to do with the ones made by Tim Burton and Joel Schumacher (Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, Batman and Robin). (SPOILER)Two-Face DID die, but that has nothing to do with whether Tommy Lee Jones was in Batman Forever, because the two plots don't affect each other at all. Chris Nolan's Batman films are new incarnations of Batman, independent of the older movies.Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
agree'd!
As for me, yeah it was a totally great movie!
As for my "Heath Ledger killed himself because he went crazy because he THOUGHT he was the joker" theory, I'm still for that theory!
(SPOILER)The fact he did the lip licking thing repeatedly (a thing commonly seen in autistic, schizophrenia, and psychosis) and to the believable extent of a crazy person made me all "ohhh." I've only seen one person ever be able to have seemingly "right" lick lipping and it was by a lady with psychosis on the bus. xD When he was doing things like hanging his body out of the car like a dog would, he did it so well that it seemed nearly natural to him, I couldn't even imagine myself being able to force myself to do that.
He played crazy to a great extent, to great I must say.
As for other things, stupid people in the theater kept being all (SPOILER)omg gordon is dead or (SPOILER)OHHH HE'S TWO FACE!! and I'm like (SPOILER)Dude, wtf Gordon is in like.. ALL THE BATMAN MOVIES IN THE FUTURE and (SPOILER)Clearly you didn't know he was two face from the name HARVY DENT
And then my mom was arguing with me telling me that (SPOILER)Two face was dead at the end which is impossible because he's in freaking Batman Forever and is played by Tommy Lee Jones. She's not understanding that while batman movies are batman movies, the movies still follow the basic laws of life, if you kill something, it tends to stay dead, therefore it would be impossible for Two face to have died because he appears years later in the future.
Now Wikipedia doesn't agree with this, so I'd like your peoples opinions:
(SPOILER)Wiki says he "fell to his death" but unless all batman movies take place in another universe, he couldn't have fallen to his DEATH because he exists in the future. How do I know it's the future? Because 1.) Batman's nice and knowing in Batman Forever 2.) Gordon has been comissioner for a while and not only that but is old and grey, clearly the Gordon we see in Dark Knight is old but younger than the Gordon in Batman Forever.
So do YOU believe that Two Face is dead? If so, does that mean you believe that all batman movies take place in another dimension of some sort?
Please, explain this to me, because my logic is causing me to not understand.
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