Lol!Originally Posted by Bolivar
Seriously, after our debate last time I'm not in the mood to go into real depth about this with you. You and I both know it would be impossible to convince the other one way or another on this topic.
In regards to the current debate, though I would argue that part of the criteria for being considered "overrated" would have to be its popular, I would say its a criteria not a reason why it is. Overrated means to be in conflict with the popular opinion. Yet at the same time, it comes down to personal opinion. I feel FFVII is overrated, I believe its a great game but I believe its flawed enough not to earn it the "greatest RPG of all time" award.
I feel both sides of the conflict need to understand that VII is a solid enough game to make it popular but has enough flaws to understand that people may dislike it. I like VII but I would be lying if I said it was a perfect game. I feel both sides need to understand this in order to minimize conflict. Yes there are pain in the ass fans on both sides of the argument who will mouth off about the debate but overall, I feel it comes down to opinion. A game can be both "perfect" and "overrated" at the same time everyone just needs to recognize that it comes down to personal opinion whether you fall into one camp or the other and stop this pointless argument.
At least use more valid arguments. Haters need to start pointing out specifics in the game as to why its not perfect; like the logic errors involving Cid joining your party, or the fact that the game offers no valid reason for Tifa to keep the truth about Nibelheim from Cloud. Fanboys, explain how the use of pre-rendered cutscenes allowed greater immersion into pivotal story points or the fact that Cloud's past is both original and never been seriously attempted since.
I don't want to hear anymore of this:
Haters: FF7 is a mediocre game with bad characters and awful gameplay. Its only popular cause its fans are obnoxious and never played any real RPGs!
Fanboys: You're just jealous cause your game isn't popular and you hate it cause its better than your game cause statistics don't lie.
NEWSFLASH!!!: In order for this debate not to go into circles anymore than it has, try to make more valid points that don't seem to be used very often. Haters: Be specific and point out its flaws within the game. Yes the fanbase is obnoxious and the game has flaws but be smurfing specific if you want to have any true leverage in your arguments. Fanboys: Stop circling back to it being popular and its all based on jealousy, point out why its the best and how it changed the world. Don't use sales figures as a crutch. 50 Cents game sold extremely well and most people consider it the worst game of all time. You also need to factor in that just because a gamer owns it doesn't mean they like it. Finally, don't use websites and gaming magazines as proof of value. XII is revered by critics as one of the best installments in the series yet its reviled by most of the FF fanbase. In the end, critics don't speak for the majority.
Basically, lets try to bring this back up as a valid debate about the integrity of the original game and not the same oldthese threads always devolve into. This will probably be my last post in this thread unless someone wants to make a valid point. :mog:
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