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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaridovich View Post
    Remade or rereleased, goBO?
    Well, GBA was a real remake, but PS1 had stat differences :P

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    A 2d version would be fun for novelty reasons, but as far as an official SE release, heeeelllll no.

    The things that took place in FFVII simply can't be accomplished in 2d. Some of it probably could with Chrono Trigger graphics (that game is actually alot like the spiritual predecessor to VII), but that would be pushing it. Things like Tseng rising up on a Helicopter to your party on the pillar, working the computer, then taking off, just couldn't be done, or done as well. The seamless transition from cutscene to gameplay when you get off the train in the beginning is one of the main achievements of the game, and it simply couldn't happen.

    Even for all of the FMV's to remain, you'd have to use such a large storage medium that it wouldn't make sense to make it in 2d. If you were to remove them, then you find yourself in the same dilemma of the events in FFVII simply not being able to be achieved in 2d, like the train circling the pillar. It could be done in a minimal way, but it would take out all the emotion and impact of Cloud's metaphor of social commentary just before it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Yaridovich View Post
    Remade or rereleased, goBO?
    Well, GBA was a real remake, but PS1 had stat differences :P
    Actually, I think the remake would be the English "FF2" because the PSX one is the original, in Japan.
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    the English FFII was FFIV: Easy Type, dumbed down for americans that didn't have the patience to play an RPG, not a remake... the GBA and PSone versions were just re-releases with extras thrown in, the PSone version allowing you to choose from Easy Type (FFII SNES) & Hard Type (FFIV Super Famicom) versions... the only real remakes we got were FF I & II for PSP and FF III & IV for NDS...

    as for the topic at hand i would not like to see VII in 2D a lot of what draws people into the game world besides a good story is good aesthetics, and i don't feel things like FFVII's steam punk dystopia of Midgar could be conveyed very well with 2D graphics, sure the story could carry most of the weight but, if you really wanna suck someone into the game world 3D is the way to go, as it is way more versitle than simple sprites and tile sets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elly View Post
    the English FFII was FFIV: Easy Type, dumbed down for americans that didn't have the patience to play an RPG, not a remake...
    *facepalm*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elly View Post
    the GBA and PSone versions were just re-releases with extras thrown in, the PSone version allowing you to choose from Easy Type (FFII SNES) & Hard Type (FFIV Super Famicom) versions... the only real remakes we got were FF I & II for PSP and FF III & IV for NDS...
    Actually I think the GBA one had improved graphics, music and character portraits. I'm not sure if the PSX version had them first, though. Also, the FFI & II for wonderswan that Americans got with origins then dawn of souls were also remakes.

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    oh yes you're right there, they did have updated sprites and sound, so i guess the Wonderswan ports were the original remakes...i guess that makes the PSP ones re-remakes, lol...

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    In my not-in-the-least-bit-humble opinion: FF7's graphics are WORSE than ff6's. So a remake in the style of FF4 DS would be completely accetable to me.

    Honestly, i never finished playing FF7 BECAUSE I though that the graphics were inferior to VI. Those clunky polygons SUCKED. Plus i didn't care for the style overall. FF should have ended at VI. Further instalments should have gone under a new series title: final sci-fi. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastian View Post
    In my not-in-the-least-bit-humble opinion: FF7's graphics are WORSE than ff6's. So a remake in the style of FF4 DS would be completely accetable to me.

    Honestly, i never finished playing FF7 BECAUSE I though that the graphics were inferior to VI. Those clunky polygons SUCKED. Plus i didn't care for the style overall. FF should have ended at VI. Further instalments should have gone under a new series title: final sci-fi. :P
    FFX, and FFIX weren't Sci-Fi-ish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    FFX, and FFIX weren't Sci-Fi-ish.
    I don't know how to refer to X. It was clearly set in the future with futuristic things, but by incorporating Sin, they allowed it to keep a "past" feeling as well.

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    I always thought VII didn't really make the transition into 3D very well, with it's ugly-ass backgrounds and characters. When I played it, I thought it would have been a lot better in 2D just because it wouldn't have been so ugly. Of course, a 3D remake wouldn't look ugly, either.

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    Some pirate firm in China actually made a NES version of FFVII, there was a thread about it sometime ago. They had to remove a lot of the extraneous content from disc two onwards, but the rest of the game's there. No idea why they did this, but that's not the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaridovich View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    FFX, and FFIX weren't Sci-Fi-ish.
    I don't know how to refer to X. It was clearly set in the future with futuristic things, but by incorporating Sin, they allowed it to keep a "past" feeling as well.
    FFX's timeline was backwards. Futuristic culture in the past, and a more primitive culture in the future. You played in the future, where most technology was caput. Comparing that to FFVII, and VIII it wasn't Sci-Fi-Ish at all xD

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    An ammedment to my controversial post:

    IX was definately the rightful heir to I through VI. Never played X though, but it looks fun.

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    Take a look at this stuff...

    http://doncorneo0.tripod.com/rwal4.html

    Found it about seven years ago; it's what inspired the sprite in my current avatar (which I've been using on and off for years)
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