Not another remake thread...

[Bolivar]

FFX, and FFIX weren't Sci-Fi-ish.

I don't know how to refer to X. It was clearly set in the future with futuristic things, but by incorporating Sin, they allowed it to keep a "past" feeling as well.

FFX's timeline was backwards. Futuristic culture in the past, and a more primitive culture in the future. You played in the future, where most technology was caput. Comparing that to FFVII, and VIII it wasn't Sci-Fi-Ish at all xD

semi-off-topic: you can't classify FFX's timeline as "backwards" because there are plenty of examples in history where societies were less technologically "advanced" (advanced in quotes because it is a subjective and relative concept) than previous civilizations in the same region.

on topic: you can't classify VII or VIII either as sci fi because at the core it was pure fantasy, with added elements of contemporary society to add flavor. See: Shadow Run.

[Wolf Kanno]

To be honest, 2D has come a long way and though I feel a IV-VI style FF would be quite interesting, I feel its just as plausible to do a more modern 2D style with VII.

I agree that 3D allows you to do more with 3D in a gameplay scenario but from a story standpoint, its just another medium to express things. Course, I feel the argument is kinda moot in this case cause very few RPGs utilize 3D into gameplay, especially the FF series. I would almost say XI and XII are the first true 3D FFs, while VII-X only used it from an artistic standpoint.

To further add to the topic since a few people seem to bring it up. Would a 2D FFVII truly hurt the characters and story? I only asked because I personally feel that outside of the Pre-rendered Cutscenes, VII hardly pulls off anything from a story standpoint that would lose its affect in 2D. The scenes Bolivar mention for instance are odd to me cause I see them less as impacts on the story and more like programming showboating with the new engine.

[cloud21zidane16]

I wouldnt like it, 3D suits VII for me.
I also think 3D wouldn't suit some of the older Final Fantasys.
This struck me as an interesting statement, care to elaborate?

I just think that if a game like VI was remade it would probably be a really good game, but i think it would make things like characters seem to different to what they was before, hard to explain lol

[Roto13]

If/When VI gets remade, it needs to be a PS3 game just because it deserves as much flair as it can get. :P

[champagne supernova]

If/When VI gets remade, it needs to be a PS3 game just because it deserves as much flair as it can get. :P

I agree with that.

[Bastian]

on topic: you can't classify VII or VIII either as sci fi because at the core it was pure fantasy, with added elements of contemporary society to add flavor. See: Shadow Run.

Eh . . . Let's just say that I will classify anything with futuristic-looking technology as sci-fi, even if it turns out it all moves by fairy dust. I never got far in the game because right from the outset of the first hour or so of the game it was all so post-futuristic . . . completely UNlike the FF I've loved for the past six games prior.

[Wolf Kanno]

I just think that if a game like VI was remade it would probably be a really good game, but i think it would make things like characters seem to different to what they was before, hard to explain lol

I think I get what you mean. I must admit, seeing the IV remake on DS has changed my perspective of the game.

If/When VI gets remade, it needs to be a PS3 game just because it deserves as much flair as it can get. :P

Damn straight.

Eh . . . Let's just say that I will classify anything with futuristic-looking technology as sci-fi, even if it turns out it all moves by fairy dust. I never got far in the game because right from the outset of the first hour or so of the game it was all so post-futuristic . . . completely UNlike the FF I've loved for the past six games prior.

I wasn't really going to get into this cause I feel its a bit off topic but though I would agree that VII and X have a 50/50 mix of sci-fi to fantasy thus negating the "Final Sci-Fi" namesake. I do feel VIII is more on the sci-fi/modern setting than the fantasy. The main storyline revolves around time travel and most of the "fantasy" elements are poorly explained and half the time seem to just be their for namesake. Its hard to claim the villains being "traditional" sorceress when their is so very little info concerning them within the game and even the damn Ultimania.

[Bastian]

Well, again, I never played VII or VIII or X BECAUSE from the box art and such I could tell that they weren't true FF games (in my own definition) due to their sci-fi look.

[ReloadPsi]

Well, again, I never played VII or VIII or X BECAUSE from the box art and such I could tell that they weren't true FF games (in my own definition) due to their sci-fi look.

Fantasy means "not real", not "in the past". That's history.

Ass.

[Bastian]

haha. well, we can debate about what exactly Sakaguchi ment by fantasy when he said he was making his "final" "fantasy" . . . which spawned the series, but one can assuredly assume he ment the "fantasy" genre, which does not mean "past" (agreed) but DOES involve a usually fictional and anacronistic European middle ages setting with magic and magical creatures. Not post-modern technology. Fantasy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ass.

[Rostum]

haha. well, we can debate about what exactly Sakaguchi ment by fantasy when he said he was making his "final" "fantasy" . . . which spawned the series, but one can assuredly assume he ment the "fantasy" genre, which does not mean "past" (agreed) but DOES involve a usually fictional and anacronistic European middle ages setting with magic and magical creatures. Not post-modern technology. Fantasy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ass.

The Dictionary > Wikipedia.
Never go to Wikipedia to try and state sources or references, it's not an authoritive material. It's made up mumbo-jumbo.

fan·ta·sy Audio Help /ˈfæntəsi, -zi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[fan-tuh-see, -zee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, plural -sies, verb, -sied, -sy·ing.
–noun
1. imagination, esp. when extravagant and unrestrained.
2. the forming of mental images, esp. wondrous or strange fancies; imaginative conceptualizing.
3. a mental image, esp. when unreal or fantastic; vision: a nightmare fantasy.
4. Psychology. an imagined or conjured up sequence fulfilling a psychological need; daydream.
5. a hallucination.
6. a supposition based on no solid foundation; visionary idea; illusion: dreams of Utopias and similar fantasies.
7. caprice; whim.
8. an ingenious or fanciful thought, design, or invention.
9. Also, fantasia. Literature. an imaginative or fanciful work, esp. one dealing with supernatural or unnatural events or characters: The stories of Poe are fantasies of horror.
10. Music. fantasia (def. 1).
–verb (used with object), verb (used without object)
11. to form mental images; imagine; fantasize.
12. Rare. to write or play fantasias.

-The Dictionary

Basically, you are wrong. Fantasy has so many sub-genres that it can not be wholey designed under one theme (i.e The medieval theme you are trying to force on it).

[Wolf Kanno]

To be fair, there is a difference between technical definition and layman definition. I would argue that the common layman definition of "fantasy" would be LotR or King Arthur. Whereas the definition the dictionary provides, practically describes "fiction" being the only requirement to be considered a fantasy.

Can we all just stop being OCD and get back on topic? Jesus...

[ReloadPsi]

FFI had robots and a giant floating castle in it. In fact in the NES version the graphical technology sucked so bad that it was in space!

I learned a few interesting things about European history in school and there was no mention of robots or floating castles that, if the graphical technology didn't accomodate it, appeared to be in space.

FFII was the first "true" FF in that case, which would also open a whole can of worms as to why the hell it was called FFII and not something else.

[Roto13]

The first thing you do in Final Fantasy VI is run rampage in a giant robot tank. :P

[Wolf Kanno]

Can we please get back on topic?

I only said something cause the definition Omecle gave seemed very vague and I partly understood what Bastion meant when he gave his comment (though I don't agree). I know damn well that sci-fi has existed in the series since the beginning and its partly why I enjoy the series cause I hate Tolkein-style fantasy.

Once again... May we please get back on topic?