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    Quote Originally Posted by Roto13 View Post
    This is something that's completely true, but nobody ever bothers to mention, and this is EXACTLY why I always thought it would have been better in 2D. The 3D aspect of the game pretty much just trades in sprites and grids for little lego models. The quality of the sprites in Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger was higher than the quality of the character models in VII. Plus, the backgrounds were basically just JPEGs.
    Ugh, let me be the first to say I could care less about graphics in games. I also tend to be far more in support of 2D over 3D (and to clarify, I mean in terms of play, not graphics). But you are not seriously trying to suggest to me that Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger, from a purely technical stand point, are actually graphically more impressive than Final Fantasy VII.

    Like... Really now. If that's what you're suggesting, then that deserves this:

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    But you are not seriously trying to suggest to me that Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger, from a purely technical stand point, are actually graphically more impressive than Final Fantasy VII.
    I most certainly am. I don't support either 2D or 3D over the other, but Final Fantasy VII's particular brand of 3D was pretty shameful. Chrono Trigger's 2D look, though, was beautiful.

    I don't think just being in 3D at all is particularly impressive, even in 1997.

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    Oh, grow up.

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    That all you have to say on it?

    Can I use that too or is that your trademark? Please don't tattle on the teacher in the playground on me. Dunno if I can handle it emotionally.

    Edit: To make it more meaningful to the topic: You're so blinded by fanboyism, and so blinded by hatred for this particular game for whatever reason, that these other games that are more cherished by you must be better in not just most ways, but EVERY way possible. Don't worry, you're most certainly not the only one. I understand, in your eyes Seven gets all this undeserved credit that isn't being given to the games you love (despite the fact that games like Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger DO get immense amount of deserved respect) that it must fail in comparison in every single way possible.
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    Or maybe Final Fantasy VII is just really ugly for a 3D game. Actually, that's a lot more likely.

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    Cloud's colossal blocky hands are the best thing to come out of the 90's. I refuse to let them be replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roto13 View Post
    Or maybe Final Fantasy VII is just really ugly for a 3D game. Actually, that's a lot more likely.
    Ah, there we go. Something other than a childish retort. Well, it sort of is.

    Anyway, I knew you had it in ya.


    But yeah, of course it is NOW, but back then it certainly wasn't. There were few games better looking back when that was first released. You need to look past the blocky character renders to see all of the true polish that game had for it's time.

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    Nope. The game was ugly, even in 1997. There were other 3D games that looked a lot better than FF VII. The "omg pretty!" reaction came mostly from the cutscenes.

    It's not like VII had much of an excuse, anyway. The backgrounds were complete pre-rendered, so it's not like they took a lot graphical power to show. They could have made the characters look a lot better with what was left over, but it's pretty obvious they were just stumbling around with it.

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    Yes, and all the in battle character models and spells were hideous. Those pre-rendered "JPG" backgrounds sure were fugly. And let's not forget all the horrible load times that we had to suffer through while playing such a large and ugly game.

    Oh, wait.

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    The character models definitely got better in battle, though they still weren't anything spectacular. There were some nice spell and summon effects, but that was more because of the overall design than the graphic quality.

    You're right, though, the backgrounds were pretty ugly.

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    Yeah, they were, good thing Final Fantasy on my NES made up for it in spades.

    Game is like looking up at the Sistine Chapel in comparison, I tells yah wot.

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    Final Fantasy I's backgrounds were ok for 1987 outside of battle. They were great in battle, though.

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    Yeah, if only they made Seven look like that. Actually... No, that would have been too beautiful for my lowly eyes to gaze upon.

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    Nah, they should have made it look like Final Fantasy VI. Only better, since it was a PS1 game so it had a lot more potential.

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