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    Oh my god you guys, did you know that Barret is actually Rosa from FFIV? It's true! It's on the internet, so it must be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Momiji View Post
    Oh my god you guys, did you know that Barret is actually Rosa from FFIV? It's true! It's on the internet, so it must be!
    You forgot the link that Rosa is actually Unne for FF III, while Barret is the seventh reincarnation of the Second Light Warrior, following
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    Rinoa, woman who is constantly in trouble and needs to be saved is actually Sephiroth who is the best SOLDIER ever? Of course why we all have been so blind. It is so obvious.

    My evidence:
    -Rinoa needs to be save 7832 times during FFVIII, which is the amount Sephiroth does damage on Aeris when he kills her.

    -Jenova and Ultimecia are both bad girls in a game series called Final Fantasy.

    -Clouds hair is spiky thanks to Rinoa/Ultimecias evil magic

    -Rinoa has dog called Angelo and Safer Sephiroths theme is "One winged Angel"

    -most solid evidence is seen in FFIX. First drink 12 beers and then play IX and all monsters that you no longer have random encounters and then you face special battle against Jenova who has Sephiroths hair, Ultimecias theme, Rinoas face and Caith siths tail.

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    .......XD how can you even find the controller after 12 beers?
    Oh gods, why? ಥ_ಥ


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    Someone told me Cloud was a little kid in FF6

    But I saw clouds in FF4 too. I think he's in all games. Watching over them. From the sky



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    Quote Originally Posted by Big D View Post
    Jenova = Sephiroth is a pretty through anti-theory I came up with some time ago xD I won't go into detail, but there's "evidence" to back it up

    There's also an expanded version of that theory, whereby Jenova is actually Melkor/Morgoth, from Tolkien's fictional world.
    Bolded part = pure awesome.

    As for Jenova = Sephiroth, I actually always thought they were pretty closely correlated and, generally, the same being. Jenova is controlling Sephiroth for almost the entire game, after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big D View Post
    There's also an expanded version of that theory, whereby Jenova is actually Melkor/Morgoth, from Tolkien's fictional world.
    That means Cloud is Turin Turambar. After all, he does fight fate.

    And Barret = Irvine could totally be true. Hasn't anyone seen Tropic Thunder?

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    Jenova=Sephiroth?
    I thought he just had jenova junk injected while he was still in Lucrecia's womb. Poor guy had a bit of a dodgy gene pool to start out with and then they mixed some Jenova in.

    Paine = Auron, after the sex change operation, he faked his own death so they would never guess.

    Oh and Garnet is Tifa's great great great (and so on) Grandmother because they have the same hairstyle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavrobel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Big D View Post
    There's also an expanded version of that theory, whereby Jenova is actually Melkor/Morgoth, from Tolkien's fictional world.
    That means Cloud is Turin Turambar. After all, he does fight fate.
    Not necessarily... the Morgoth theory depends on a number of factors, including:

    • Morgoth was exiled into the depths of space
    • Jenova 'fell from the sky'
    • Morgoth attempted to dominate life, and spread destruction
    • Jenova wanted to rule over all life on the planet, and spread destruction
    • Morgoth could change his form
    • Jenova can also change form
    • ...and so on...
    I'm not for a second suggesting that FFVII takes place in the same world as Tolkien's stories, but rather on a different world, many millennia in the future, after Morgoth's been drifting across the stars.

    Actually, I'm not seriously suggesting that either; it's more of a parody theory than anything else.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Rabbits
    Jenova is controlling Sephiroth for almost the entire game, after all.
    This has always been a contentious issue, but the FFVII Ultimania clears it up: Sephiroth was always in control of his own actions, rather than being manipulated by Jenova directly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big D View Post
    Not necessarily... the Morgoth theory depends on a number of factors, including:
    • Morgoth was exiled into the depths of space
    • Jenova 'fell from the sky'
    • Morgoth attempted to dominate life, and spread destruction
    • Jenova wanted to rule over all life on the planet, and spread destruction
    • Morgoth could change his form
    • Jenova can also change form
    • ...and so on...
    I was also being facetious, but just because I can:

    The Ainur (yes, this does include Melkor, because he would have been one of their number) existed before the conception of the world. Tolkien consistently described the spirits as having descended into the world. Of course, this occurs before everything else in the world, but it is still a pivotal moment in that history, and crashing into the world from outer space is pretty close to descending.

    They both did that. But ultimately, Jenova would have found a way to leave, consuming other worlds in the process. Melkor just wanted to stay.

    They both could change form, but Melkor eventually stopped. He had spread his power too thin amongst his evil minions. In a sense, this is very similar to Jenova, whose parts has been scattered everywhere, and strength is based on the percentage of constitution. Of course, Melkor has nothing close to Reunion, unless you count the distant future where he breaks the Doors of Night.

    Furthermore, they both have extremely strong agents who continue their works. Melkor has Sauron, and Jenova, in a way, has Sephiroth (for that short time). But, I don't think Melkor was kept hidden away for a long time or experimented on; people just never said his name. Eldar == Ancients. In the Third Age, the number of Elves was dwindling in ME, and they left (cue the Avari). The last string of Elven qualities in people came from the union of Arwen and Aragorn; that means, of course, that Eldarion is Aeris. Except Eldarion kind of owns everyone's face after his father's death, doesn't suffer his own violent death, and has several sisters.

    Cloud == Turin based on the lore given to us of a prophecy about the last battle, Dagor Dagorath.

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    In FF7, Aeris knew Zack before she met Cloud. Aeris is important to the FF7's story. Aeris did not tell Cloud about Zack after he met Cloud straight away.
    In FF8, Rinoa knew Seifer before she met Squall. Rinoa is important to the FF8's story. Rinoa did not tell Squall about Seifer after he met Squall straight away.
    Last edited by Serapy; 09-30-2008 at 02:48 AM.

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    This thread is more epic than Future Esthar.
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    They are all connected because you touch yourself at night lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    In FF8, Rinoa knew Seifer before he met Squall.
    Sorry, but that's not true. For starters, they had known each other from orphanage. They went to the same GARDEN, so they actually knew each other all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    In FF8, Rinoa knew Seifer before he met Squall.
    Sorry, but that's not true. For starters, they had known each other from orphanage. They went to the same GARDEN, so they actually knew each other all the time.
    Oops, I accidentally put "he" instead of "she".

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