Quote Originally Posted by Bolivar View Post
For all of you that keep insisting "SCI-FI!!!":

go to a group that plays the pencil-and-paper version of Shadow Run, and try to convince them that they are playing a sci-fi game.
Give me one moment *calls his rpg club* Yes, we do actually consider Shadow Run sci-fi though to be technical its "cyber punk with a decent dose of fantasy". Yet most of us agree its cyber punk background negates it from being a true fantasy.

Quote Originally Posted by The Crystal View Post
What's really funny, is the people who say that FFVII is sci-fi(it's more to steampunk, in my personal opinion), are the same people who don't consider FFVI a sci-fi game.
FFVI... A game with robots, factories, experiments, and etc.
VI is Steam punk baby! I don't consider it "traditional fantasy" at all really. Course I don't consider VI, VII, VIII, or X "traditional fantasy" and prefer to call them by their sub-genres.

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OMG! I hate these kind of arguments. Nothing more stupid than people bitching about the definition of a word, especially since if human language has show us anything is that the language changes but not the books. Basically, their is a difference in "educational" definition and "common" definition. I feel when most people hear fantasy, you think Lord of the Rings or D&D. If you said Star Trek was your favorite fantasy series, Trekkies will be quick to point out your wrong in saying its "fantasy" and is in fact science fiction. Saying its "fantasy" is a gross generalization of a very distinct genre with specific characteristics that separate it from other genres. Sci-Fi has grown so much in the last century that its become more than a sub-genre in the basic definition of the word "fantasy". Most book stores or Sci-Fi groups regard it as a separate genre by this point.

To be honest, the dictionary definition of "fantasy" is pretty vague and I feel its mostly understood that anything that isn't based in reality that most people (by that I mean the "common" man) refers to fantasy as in the Tolkien inspired genre of swords and sorcery.

This is most likely due to the fact that the "textbook" definition of fantasy is so vague most people commonly generalize it to mean swords and sorcery fantasy. Why? Cause they were the first genre. The legends and myths of the old world are what most traditional High or epic fantasies are based on. Science Fiction, Occult Fiction, Cyber Punk, and Steampunk all came later and they all have such distinct traits I feel its ok to refer to VI, VII, VIII, and X by their specific genre rather than a generalized word that can mean anything.

Hell, the definition of fantasy and fiction are pretty interchangeable if you read them so I've come to the conclusion that everyone here is wrong and all the Final Fantasy's are in fact not "fantasy" but actually fiction.

Of which, VI, VII, and VIII are the weakest fiction stories cause they contain the most amount of non-fiction elements in their stories.