Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Bolivar View Post
For all of you that keep insisting "SCI-FI!!!":

go to a group that plays the pencil-and-paper version of Shadow Run, and try to convince them that they are playing a sci-fi game.
Give me one moment *calls his rpg club* Yes, we do actually consider Shadow Run sci-fi though to be technical its "cyber punk with a decent dose of fantasy". Yet most of us agree its cyber punk background negates it from being a true fantasy.
You know Shadow Run players who consider it sci-fi?

You're either a bad liar or a poor comedian.

I think the reason why we're now caught up in the definition of fantasy, rather than giving our opinions on the original question, is because of this truth:

Some of the people who don't like FFVII/VIII (at least relative to other entries) try to devalue it by saying "it isn't fantasy" - primarily because they do not understand what fantasy is in the first place.

Not to mention that we're using popular Western misconceptions of fantasy to judge Japanese interpretations of the genre.

Case closed.