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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes View Post
    But I'm a downer (like alcohol!) and I do have one little wish. I wish he could have stayed away a little bit from the "we're Democrats" and McCain is fail bits.
    He has to make himself look better. Either that happens in attacks, or that happens with impeccably high moral standards. Of course, Obama has been recently falling in the polls, and his numbers with "blue collar workers" was never strong in the first place. If he went with upstanding morality, he would not only lose the support of the constituency that does identify with him, he would further alienate others.

    "This guy reminds me too much of the people that put me down. The way he talks, all those big words and promises that won't get through."

    Combined with the inherent cynicism of the government that so strongly defines our generation, that's a big hurdle to jump.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kes View Post
    I mean I know that's what this speech is about etc., but with all his talks of bipartisanship and new politics, those things felt to me like missed notes even if I agreed with most/all of it.
    Counters are, in fact, inevitable. But the way Obama did it was superbly done. Yes, he did attack McCain's record of voting, and charged him with wanting to pour more resources into a wild goose chase (Iraq as opposed to Afghanistan), he also elevated himself as the person who isn't the political candidate, but a man of the people, and showed in his way that McCain is not. You couldn't have done it in this way without the other; either way, I do not find this regrettable.

    Or listen to MILF.

    Quote Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF View Post
    Hopefully it will protect him against ridiculous charges against his patriotism though.
    It won't. Too many people associate patriotism with active warfare. Dissent is also a form of patriotism, and it's a real lost art.

    EDIT: McCain's pick for VP. Hah. Hah. You just screwed your party. Romney is superior and a perfect compliment to what you lack.
    Last edited by Tavrobel; 08-29-2008 at 06:14 PM.

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