PC vs Mac

[Fire_Emblem776]

And like being able to pirate software effortlessly.

^_^

But arnt macs less prone to viruses?

[ReloadPsi]

Nothing, hardware and software aside. They're both computers, they both serve pretty much the same purpose. There are arrogant elitists on both sides who throw around petty, pointless arguments, and aren't worth listening to and need a punch in the teeth.

I personally use a PC, running Windows Vista. It isn't bad at all, despite what other people say.

EDIT: Added a to the end to show everyone Tavrobel I wasn't being serious. xD

As if you weren't being serious, that point was perfectly accurate.

I was in middle school during an age when very few people had no computers in their houses, so if you went to school and were likely to need to use a computer, you'd have to learn there. This is where the complications set in: In the mid 90s, Macs were not compatible with anything. They were close to being nothing like PCs and after we'd spent three years with a Welsh IT teacher going ga-ga for Macs (I find it so unprofessional when teachers bring their own personal convictions into their freakin' jobs!) we all went to high school and had to completely re-learn how to use a computer.

Now that I'm in college doing a course mainly relating to filmmaking, Macs have the best video editing software (Final Cut ftw) but my time in middle school so many years ago left a mark. The main thing I noticed about the ones we have: no simple, rudimentary image editing software akin to MSPaint. That really pissed me off and threw so many limitations at me when trying to do some of my work that it was unreal. They also crash a great deal more than people claim they would... they're very unstable in fact; sometimes when exporting a video I've edited, it'll just freeze. Also, the Game Development course have to use Macs. Anybody notice the obvious flaw there? Once again this is all because the person in charge of this is Mac obsessed, not because he believes they'd be more useful. Oh, someone earlier said they were for dirty hippies. Well guess what, this guy who decided everyone in K Block must use Macs seems to be a dirty hippy. Result!

All these problems I've had with the supposedly flawless Mac have only led me to believe that the elitists on the Mac side are very easily swayed people. So I'm not anti-Mac by any means, I've just got my eyes open to the fact they're not as perfect as anyone would have you believe.

[Balzac]

TBH, Final Cut isn't the best. There are far better out there. Final Cut is the omly decent one for the Mac :P

Anyway, given the chance, now I've basically moved over to Maya. I'd take a mac. Far more reliable for 3d and video editing. Unless of course you're trying to do video edding on an iMac, then you get a whole heap of the problems. Powermacs are great. I have an old G4 Powermac sitting in my study, sadly it isn't powerful enough for my needs, so it goes unused.

Saying that, the priest in this vid sums it up nicely.

YouTube - Snuff Box - Macs Vs PCs

Some strong langauge.

[DMKA]

This sums up my feelings pretty nicely.

But arnt macs less prone to viruses?

Not exactly. There's just less viruses out there targeted at Macs than Windows, for the simple fact that Macs are the minority next to Windows. Personally, I don't see how people even get viruses for Windows XP and Vista without trying.

[Momiji]

And yes, I know that with bootcamp you can play it, but this video still makes me laugh every time.

[Madame Adequate]

I hear that for the very few things Macs are good at, they are very good. If you want to do what a Mac is designed to do (which I understand to be graphic design for the most part), do it on a Mac instead of a Windows.

But if you want a computer which does anything else, offers any degree of flexibility, basically if you want a PC for any reason other than what Macs are very good at, don't get a Mac. I mean... eesh, I use my computer for playing games, among other things. I don't even want to think about that with a Mac.

And yeah the reason Macs don't get viruses isn't because Apple has some awesome virus aegis, it's because Mac users are using Macs, and if you're using a Mac you've already got it bad enough without viruses.

[Roto13]

Mac fanboys are f-ing annoying. (I'm not referring to anyone in this thread. :P)

[Magixion]

As everyone has already stated, Macs are great for user friendliness and video and editing software, but beyond that, they really are not that great. Personally, I am a PC man, I have about 4 PC's.. now that I think about it... I am not sure how I keep getting new ones! xD

If you are into nothing more than making movies and sharing photos and what not, go for a Mac, if you want to do anything beyond that, definitely go PC.

Just for fun, here is my quote regarding Macs:

"Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I clickzzzz my wun buttin mowse!"

Also, a great YTMND that summarizes up what I just said:

YTMND - Mac vs. PC

[Raebus]

PC all the way.

[Rantz]

The differences, although very simplified, can—from my experience—be summed up as such: Macs are stabler, PCs are more versatile.

[Mirage]

Hardware-wise, nothing. They're both made from the same cheap chinese/taiwanese components. Except Apple charges morefor those components than everyone else. The only real difference is in software, but that's not a PC vs Mac issue, it's a MacOS vs Windows issue. No one is forcing you to use Windows on your PC, after all.

If you want to compare MacOS version whatever and Windows NT, the following applies:

First, Windows has got, by far, the largest software library. Including a lot of applications many users think of as impossible to live without :p. Of course, you can say that it's possible to emulate Windows programs in MacOS, but that's a pretty pointless discussion. Then you can argue for there being tons of games on the PSP, because it can emulate SNES, NES, GBA, et cetera. Also, emulation is usually less efficient and not always as stable as running the application on its intended system.

Second, Windows's "lol crash" reputation is a bit unfair, I think. Considering the majority of BSOD problems were found in Windows versions that weren't NT based, such as Win95, 98 and ME. I'd argue that the vast majority of BSODs in windows NT 5.x/6.x are caused by hardware problems, and if it is caused by software, it is almost always a kernel driver problem. And Microsoft aren't the ones writing drivers for all the hardware out there. Now, this leads to another interesting point, which is sort of double-edged.

You see, Macs, while using basically the same hardware as PCs, are more closed off. Apple doesn't need to support as many hardware devices as Windows does, because Macs are built with a few but (probably better) tested components, and their users rarely, if ever, replace any of the hardware inside it. Because of the lower amount of hardware devices, a lot fewer drivers need to be made too, and that frees up time to test each driver much more thoroughly. And all this leads to more stability.

A PC with Windows however, especially if you're an above-average computer user, needs to support an incredibly much larger number of different components, and to ensure that they all work nicely together. Some of these devices don't even have drivers that have been checked by MS to be "good enough", and some of these might not like some other component in the PC at all. This leads to instabilities, and for the average user, it looks like it is the OS which is the problem.

MacOS could easily run on any ordinary PC nowadays, because they use the same processor architecture. The only thing that stops you from doing this is that Apple puts a small chip on their Mac motherboards, where it is written "This is a Mac" or something. If MacOS doesn't find a chip with this text in it, it refuses to work.

However, people are working to find a workaround for this problem. I expect MacOS running on a PC to "magically" start encountering more strange problems than when run by a computer built by Apple, because of what I said earlier about MacOS not normally having to troible itself with a lot of different components.

A nice analogy could be:
Windows-PC = Driving your own car.
MacOS on Macintosh = Taking a cab, or hiring a private driver.
Linux on anything = Building your car from scratch, and driving it yourself
MacOS on PC = Hiring a car driver to fly your F-22 Raptor figher jet.

[Dreddz]

Well I've used Mac's all my life and prefer them over PC's. The Mac's firewall is a fortress and I've never had any Viruses ever. The in-built software is probably the best you are going to find. They are incredibly fast and designed much better than PC's. Windows Vista actually copied Mac to a certain extent which I think says a lot.

I think PC's do have some advantages though. For one there is more software available, I generally have an easier time finding useful freeware programs for my PC than my Mac. Because most things on the internet are built with Windows in mind first, I tend to find myself doing a lot of things on my Windows Laptop. There are workarounds for Mac but its always hassle which I'm not prepared for.

Bottom line though, Mac's are more efficient computers. I have a G5 in my house and its probably the best computer I've ever had.

[Mirage]

Firewalls don't stop viruses, and virtually no one is on the internet today without a hardware firewall in the form of a router. You only get viruses on the PC if you're stupid, and that is the truth :p. I guess Macs are more idiot-proof then :p.

Also, what are the specs on your G5 mac and your PC?

[bipper]

I guess Macs are more idiot-proof then .

Also, what are the specs on your G5 mac and your PC?

That about sums it up.

Apple has always been a group of nerd that evolved from the PC type of nerd that could build their own machine. This is hardly as plausible on the Mac platform. Strategy-wise apple has a safe and solid setup, in that they own both pc and hadware. Though, we all know how well that worked out for them.


I also cannot stand people who whine about Microsoft evil empire and throw apple out there as being amazing. They are, in truth, even worse.

[Miriel]

I don't see how Mac fanboys are any worse than Anti-mac people who just whine about how elitist Apple products and consumers are. Pfft.

How many of you guys have actually used a Mac as your main machine for any length of time? As far as I' concerned, only people who have used both Macs and PCs are eligible to make any real judgment on which is better, or at the very least, which they prefer.