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    Vivi dies, right?

    Some people dont think he does...

    But to me its pretty obvious that he does.


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    I went ahead and edited the thread title. Even if you mark that the thread has spoilers, you shouldn't put the spoiler content in the title.
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    Eh, I think he pretty much does. Of course it's never concluded and it is Final Fantasy so it's perfectly reasonable to maybe think that they found a magic life-span-increasing hat for him after the events of the game or summat.

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    I never really thought about it when I first played the game and completed it, and only saw the theory that he dies on forums and stuff afterwards. Obviously it all makes sense and ties in with the themes of the Black Mages' mortality in the game, but it's still kind of depressing so I almost don't want to believe that version of events XD - but yeah from what I've seen it is widely accepted now by people that he does die at the end of the game.
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    If memory serves me correct, doesn't the game mention only Vivi's kids actually showed up for the events of the ending? Course it seems kinda sad to kill such an awesome character off screen...

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    Not enough people die in FFIX. I reckon Kuja survived too.


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    The Black Mages were established to have an extremely short lifespan, so I think that while Vivi had a longer lifespan than others of that species, he died after the events of the game.
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    Someone mentioned the little Vivis running around at the end. How did these little guys come about?
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    I get the feeling most people didn't want to dwell too much on how black mages reproduce (or even if they have genders) XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogle View Post
    The Black Mages were established to have an extremely short lifespan, so I think that while Vivi had a longer lifespan than others of that species, he died after the events of the game.
    Isn't is because he's the prototype, or something?

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    There are hypothesese that Vivi learnt how to form black mages from the pockets of mist that remained, even after the Iifa tree was destroyed. But nothing is confirmed.


    And I think it is extremely significant that we only see Vivi's kids. We dont see Vivi himself - he's the only main party member who is missing at the end of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivisteiner View Post
    There are hypothesese that Vivi learnt how to form black mages from the pockets of mist that remained, even after the Iifa tree was destroyed. But nothing is confirmed.
    That's possible?
    I knew they were made of mist but I thought there was some complexity in making them. How would Vivi know?

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    ^Lol, I have no idea. And they dont give us any hint in the game, so at the end of the day its pure speculation. But by the end of the game, Vivi's magic was very powerful.

    Oh, and what about those machines in Dali? Maybe he hijacked them or something.

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    Vivi is a she? :O Could be! You don't know

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    Well, it was stated that the prototype was supposed to last longer than the regular grunts.

    That's the other thing - nobody knows where the hell his kids come from or how they came about. It might be another thing having to do with "the prototype". One of my theories would be that Vivi is actually a "black mage" from The Crystal's memory (just like the Elemental Fiends) and he's called the prototype because the black mage robots were based off of him. He can have kids/whatever. That would also explain why he likes windmills, they remind him of airships of past games. I don't know.

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