Quote Originally Posted by Roto13 View Post
Maybe play a decent Wii game besides Wii Sports or something. There are plenty of games that make great use of the WiiMote without being any more gimmicky than the control stick was in 1996.
Really? Because I'm not aware of any. The Wii is great fun for a short time with some friends. For anything approaching gaming, however...

Where is the much-desired Star Wars game where you can use your lightsaber in real-time? Or any swordfighting game, for that matter? Red Steel pretty clearly displayed that the Wii does not have the chops to do the thing I was most excited about.

I'm hard pressed to think of a single good Wii game which actually uses waggle motion sensing to make the game something it couldn't be otherwise. Just like the stylus on the DS, unecesary motion balls is shoehorned into games which don't need it in any way.

Quote Originally Posted by Roto13 View Post
What's bad is that they use the gimmicks to market the product toward people who wouldn't otherwise buy it.
... So they add new features to get more people interested? And that's bad, because... ?
It's not bad from Nintendo's perspective. It's smurfing genius in fact. They did something which had been attempted before and dismissed as just not feasable - i.e. motion control - and marketed it like some sort of Hayekian demon. The Wii is one of the most successful things ever made in this industry.

The problem is that the new demographies brought in by the Wii, well... they're just going to meet me with a blank stare when I talk about X-Com. They've probably barely heard of Civilization, they're not interested in Soul Calibur, and they're sure as skullskullskullskull not buying Okami any more than other consoles did.

What the Wii has done changed the industry. No denying that. As you said, anyone who thinks the PS4/XBox3 aren't going to target casual gamers more is delusional. But I don't want that. I don't want the market to be a competition between minigames. I want real, serious games which take an investment of time and energy and, on lucky occasions, emotions. I want gaming to evolve, sure - and hopefully it's going to end up where The Jackal suggests pretty soon - but not in the direction Nintendo has steered it in.