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I meant a sort of "just in case" fallback plan :/
Just in case what? She gets addicted? Well, that's like having a fallback plan for being homeless and then buying a home you know you can't afford - it's a silly thing to plan for if you can simply avoid getting into that position in the first place.

Now, I'm not expecting anyone to change because if there's anything that anyone knows about 'party girls' it's that if you tell them what to do then they'll rebel against you... it's pretty futile. But I know people who can party hard without smoking. I have no reason to just act is if I have to give in and say "Oh alright it's cool just fix it later" because we all know that people won't plan to fix things later, they'll just carry on making themselves worse until they get to the point that they've already ruined themselves in some ways that can't be fixed. And it's sad, and pathetic. People in this world can get away with saying "Hey man, we smoke, you should too!" but the moment someone says "You shouldn't do that..." then everyone jumps down their throat.

Basically what I'm getting at is that just because I know it won't change anyone doesn't mean I need to hide and let all the smokers have 100% pressure towards smoking and 0% against. I'm here to let smokers know they're doing something that's nothing but a dumb, stupid thing to do. Then the more tactful people can pull on the "oh I won't stop you" guilt trips later.

The saddest thing about this whole affair is that it's mostly kids that can't even afford to buy a pack of cigarettes that are smoking their lungs away, and (this being the sad part) it's their peers, the people their age, the ones they respect, that have the most power to stop them - and they don't.
Um, don't you drink occasionally yourself BoBbo?

It's quite easy to replace smokers with drinkers in that sentance.

OVerall though I do agree with you. Just that you seem a tad harsh for someone who does stupid things themselves.
The effects of smoking and alcohol are very different, alcohol in small amounts does little harm but smoking in the tiniest form is still bad, if you get me I see what you mean as they're both addicting, though.

Honestly, I'm not a smoker, I'm someone who smokes the occasional cigarette, there is a difference. They're nice sometimes, but I don't crave them or want one all the time, having to walk to the smoking shelter in college is a bitch and I often cannot be bothered, so thus I am not addicted.
The problem isnt that their addicting, its that in essence both are stupid to do to begin with. You're doing physical harm to your own body.

Even I drink on occasion, but I full admit its a dumb thing to do.

Equally as dumb as smoking if you ask me.

But meh, everyone does skullskullskullskull thats dumb, simply because its who they are and what they enjoy to do. So I say go ahead and let them do it.