Quote Originally Posted by Omecle View Post
Visual novels are not games, they just aren't, I don't even know what you're trying to get at here. What you're talking about is completely wrong. Games require challenge to be considered games, whether you think they are challenging enough or not is irrelevant. Yes, they are classified as a part of interactive entertainment, but there's more to it than just that.

Last I checked a good many Visual Novels are considered Games. Utawarerumono is a visual novel but it can NOT be contested as not being a game. Fate/Stay Night is a game last I checked. As is the X-Change series. Need I go on? They are marketed and sold as games. They are interactive.

True games are more than interactive. But if you define games by challenge, than a good number of games are apparently not games. After all, I don't find the vast majority of them to be challenging these days. So is NWN2 not a game because it has no real challenge?

Anyhow, I gotta fly to work and will respond to the rest later since the other points should have been clear enough from my previous posts with a bit of reading in between the lines and connecting that to what I was responding to. That or since I was tired I failed to input one of the important in reading lines.