OH SHI-?! This Are Election Thread!

[Rantz]

Avalanche has punch and pie.

[NeoCracker]

I'm undecided on which party to join. Bring me over to your side.

The Third Party Obviously.

WE are the only one upfront about our goals.

The current system is but a MAchine, with a two parties to create the illusion of choice.

However, by spending effort to create this illusion, effectiveness lowers.

I wish to create an unmasked tyrany, that can easily change its rules on a moments notice to accomidate changes.

This is something that cannot be accomplished with the current machine.

[Freya]

Shinra Obviously. Avalanche wants to strip you from your CK title. You don't want that do you?

[Laddy]

Shinra Obviously. Avalanche wants to strip you from your CK title. You don't want that do you?

Yes you do. CK-ism is a lie. Like the military, boy scouts, and 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell.'

At AVALANCHE, it's about you and we.

At Shinra it's about I and me.

Now which one is more appealing?

[Sir Lancealot]

AVALANCHE= Commie Borg
ShinRa= Non-sexist Ferengi.

[Freya]

Oh wow. Avalanche ARE like commies aren't they xD


We are just trying to preserve the sanctity that is Eyeson, rather than taking it to hell with a field of spam.

[Tavrobel]

You all misunderstand true Communism. It isn't like what Stalin or Mao wanted, true Communism comes from the ability to freely share creativity and all sorts of benefits to the other. Property belongs to the people. But it depends on the idea that people are essentially trustworthy and altruistic.

Shinra denies it by turning the world into a zero-sum game. Where there are winners and losers, when there is a perfectly suitable win-win-win situation to be had; win because the person wins, win because the other person wins, and me winning for having successfully mediated a conflict. A fourth, optional win occurs when Wizpig is defeated. But Shinra would have none of that. They tell us to use Drumstick, but we say that we should all use T.T. the clock.

[NeoTifa]

Avalanche has punch and pie.

[Madame Adequate]

I'm undecided on which party to join. Bring me over to your side.

The Third Party Obviously.

WE are the only one upfront about our goals.

The current system is but a MAchine, with a two parties to create the illusion of choice.

However, by spending effort to create this illusion, effectiveness lowers.

I wish to create an unmasked tyrany, that can easily change its rules on a moments notice to accomidate changes.

This is something that cannot be accomplished with the current machine.

I understand your sentiments entirely. I felt the same way once. But realistically, there is no hope of changing the system without becoming part of the system. I understand the distasteful nature of that, but it is reality. And surely you can see that the malleable, open-minded, rational Avalanche is more suited to effecting change than the fascistic, entrenched Shinra? I think we can all recognize that Avalanche is not a perfect party and does not have a perfect platform, but the fundamental difference is that Avalanche can change and adapt, whereas Shinra cannot. I implore you, join us - we shall make Avalanche the party which the people deserve, and we shall take them to victory!

[Goldenboko]

You all misunderstand true Communism. It isn't like what Stalin or Mao wanted, true Communism comes from the ability to freely share creativity and all sorts of benefits to the other. Property belongs to the people. But it depends on the idea that people are essentially trustworthy and altruistic.

Communism is a great idea. But it doesn't work. By creating a power-infrastructure you have people with power fighting other people with power. And as long as anyone can rise to become those people with power and the power struggle maintains to be everlasting, the land/country/world will stay free. You can try and get rid of that power, but you have someone you will always have someone trying to gain power. People aren't perfect, people have greed, people want strength. So to get rid of people's natural desire for power you need to create a government, which in turns holds the people down. But who holds that power? And who stops the holder of that power from becoming corrupt? And if someone overthrows someone stricken with greed, who stops that person from becoming greedy? And continue that to infinity.

A struggle for power, creates a democracy, it drives people to do good. You're type of altruistic idea of "freedom" doesn't work, and starts dictatorships.

[qwertysaur]

I'm undecided on which party to join. Bring me over to your side.

i suggest that you watch this video, close your eyes, and ask yourself which side really will bring EoFF into a greater era. Iff you are still unsure about where you stand, which is reasonable because of the magnitude of the question, then I recommend either staying independent or ShinRa.

[Goldenboko]

I'm undecided on which party to join. Bring me over to your side.

My only argument to you will be to read and think. I know if you do so, you will make the right choice, and join Shinra.

[Tavrobel]

Communism is a great idea. But it doesn't work. By creating a power-infrastructure you have people with power fighting other people with power. And as long as anyone can rise to become those people with power and the power struggle maintains to be everlasting, the land/country/world will stay free. You can try and get rid of that power, but you have someone you will always have someone trying to gain power. People aren't perfect, people have greed, people want strength. So to get rid of people's natural desire for power you need to create a government, which in turns holds the people down. But who holds that power? And who stops the holder of that power from becoming corrupt? And if someone overthrows someone stricken with greed, who stops that person from becoming greedy? And continue that to infinity.

A struggle for power, creates a democracy, it drives people to do good. You're type of altruistic idea of "freedom" doesn't work, and starts dictatorships.

Seriously, you really need to learn how to use "your" and "you're" properly.

The very government which you have helped to spawn holds people down; you have said it yourself. By the values of education and a free flow of information, people will be able to cast off the shackles of ignorance; no need there would be for a system that ensures policing for the people would have the ability to do it themselves. Government is not an instrument of oppression; neither should the people be afraid, nor shoudl the government fear the people.

It is a contract. And either side is held responsible by its own constituency; however, your dastardly regime has stripped away the consequences for the government, and pushed it onto the people. Unable are they to live their life freely. If in fact, they choose to live as evil and cruel people, it should be the fault of the person. However, your societal infrastructure pushes and holds people down to the bottom. You have said it yourself, and it is your self-perpetuating prophecy.

[Goldenboko]

Communism is a great idea. But it doesn't work. By creating a power-infrastructure you have people with power fighting other people with power. And as long as anyone can rise to become those people with power and the power struggle maintains to be everlasting, the land/country/world will stay free. You can try and get rid of that power, but you have someone you will always have someone trying to gain power. People aren't perfect, people have greed, people want strength. So to get rid of people's natural desire for power you need to create a government, which in turns holds the people down. But who holds that power? And who stops the holder of that power from becoming corrupt? And if someone overthrows someone stricken with greed, who stops that person from becoming greedy? And continue that to infinity.

A struggle for power, creates a democracy, it drives people to do good. You're type of altruistic idea of "freedom" doesn't work, and starts dictatorships.

Seriously, you really need to learn how to use "your" and "you're" properly.

The very government which you have helped to spawn holds people down; you have said it yourself. By the values of education and a free flow of information, people will be able to cast off the shackles of ignorance; no need there would be for a system that ensures policing for the people would have the ability to do it themselves. Government is not an instrument of oppression; neither should the people be afraid, nor shoudl the government fear the people.

It is a contract. And either side is held responsible by its own constituency; however, your dastardly regime has stripped away the consequences for the government, and pushed it onto the people. Unable are they to live their life freely. If in fact, they choose to live as evil and cruel people, it should be the fault of the person. However, your societal infrastructure pushes and holds people down to the bottom. You have said it yourself, and it is your self-perpetuating prophecy.

Look at you completely proving you have no reading comprehension

[Tavrobel]

Look at you completely proving you have no reading comprehension

Because you are trying to use Communism as a means, if I might even say, a really valid point and i'm impressed by your thinking., to bring down our form of criticisms, when it fact, it reflects you all the clearer. Maybe you need to grow up before you can hang with the big boys and learn yourself some comprehension and ability to read text. Your rhetoric doesn't use anything, and instead drops down to the level of ad hominem instantly; it doesn't rely on logic, your own credibility, or even emotions. It is nothing, and unpersuasive; you carry on as though it were some sort of knack and are proud of yourself for having it. Yet you attack me with no ability to even read my words and comprehend what my response to your words were. For shame. I had hoped I could at least respect the people in Shinra, but alas, I am proven wrong.

If I am so unable to read your words, then tell me what exactly it is that you were trying to say, Gorgias.