Quantum of Solace

[Nice]

I liked the film but I wouldn't bother watching it again. The Bourne series may have ruined the Bond films for me. (It just seems so many times better and it doesn't help that Bond producers and directors are trying to do what was already done in the Bourne series, not that they get it right.)

My gripe was the weak plot and Bond's monogamy. =/ What's up with that?

It was pretty hardcore though and I actually 'like' Criag's style and take on Bond. I am not a big fan of Pierce's take on Bond, I felt he ahhh, sucked. =0

I thought it was ok. The continuous cuts in the action scenes, especially in the opening scene, also pissed me off and made me a little dizzy. Why do they do that?

I thought it was only me. I hate how these new action flicks do that, I must have seen three movies this year that made me feel this way.

[Del Murder]

Yeah Bond didn't even sleep with the main girl! What's up with that?

[edczxcvbnm]

If I recall correctly, he didn't sleep with the main girl in Tomorrow Never Dies either.

I wouldn't have a problem with the shaky cam thing if it was done in a way that I can tell what the hell is going on. I never get disoreiented when watching Bourne but in this movie it was hard to tell exactly what was going on during the boat chase scene for example.

I think this is a case of just bad directing more than peoples problem with shaky cam techniques.

[Slothy]

If I recall correctly, he didn't sleep with the main girl in Tomorrow Never Dies either.

I wouldn't have a problem with the shaky cam thing if it was done in a way that I can tell what the hell is going on. I never get disoreiented when watching Bourne but in this movie it was hard to tell exactly what was going on during the boat chase scene for example.

I think this is a case of just bad directing more than peoples problem with shaky cam techniques.

That's funny because the last two Bourne movies made it difficult for me to figure out what was going on in some of the action scenes, but I had no trouble with Quantum of Solace.

[Del Murder]

Bond slept with both main girls in Tomorrow Never Dies. Both Teri Hatcher and the Chinese girl.

[Nice]

edczxcvbnm You still miss the point that this movie had one hellva weak plot. Not just that, he slept with one chick, I mean What the fu/k!!!!!????!!!! What other Bond film is there where he sleeps with one chick (except Her Majesty's secret service, and even then I'm not sure about that film)?

[Ouch!]

I saw this movie the night it came out and was very pleased. To be perfectly honest, I'm surprised so many people have been disappointed, because I'm not sure what else everyone expected. In the ending of Casino Royale Bond is pissed off as hell because of Vesper's death. I thought it was fairly clear that he was out for revenge against those who got her tied up in the events that ultimately led to her death.

I fully expected the next movie to be about Bond smurfing people up indiscriminately in a blind rage. Hell, they said that's what it would be only a few short weeks after Casino Royale was released.

One of the primary problems is that people are going into Quantum of Solace expecting it to be another Bond film that stands along on its own. Quantum of Solace is very much a continuation of Casino Royale, just as the next movie will likely be a continuation of Quantum of Solace. The new line of Bond movies is showing a level of cohesion even greater than the movies in which Bond was constantly against Specter, and it's something I definitely approve of.

[Nice]

I saw this movie the night it came out and was very pleased. To be perfectly honest, I'm surprised so many people have been disappointed, because I'm not sure what else everyone expected. In the ending of Casino Royale Bond is pissed off as hell because of Vesper's death. I thought it was fairly clear that he was out for revenge against those who got her tied up in the events that ultimately led to her death.

I fully expected the next movie to be about Bond smurfing people up indiscriminately in a blind rage. Hell, they said that's what it would be only a few short weeks after Casino Royale was released.

One of the primary problems is that people are going into Quantum of Solace expecting it to be another Bond film that stands along on its own. Quantum of Solace is very much a continuation of Casino Royale, just as the next movie will likely be a continuation of Quantum of Solace. The new line of Bond movies is showing a level of cohesion even greater than the movies in which Bond was constantly against Specter, and it's something I definitely approve of.

I never saw Casino Royale, but from what I saw in QoS, I took it he was out for revenge. However, it (QoS) is not a direct sequel, nor is it a traditional sequel. It is almost a stand alone movie with the only thing linking it to CR is the Vesper sub-plot. I was disappointed that QoS had no real plot. It wants you to watch the next Bond film that will hopefully address the big question, "what the smurf is the Quantum of Solace?"

[Del Murder]

Yeah the fact that the plot was more of a bridge to the next movie than anything else bugged me too. I'm all for continuing storylines, but give us a little more than a name for our $10. Without that aspect of it this movie would have been a lot worse, because this particular mission for Bond was pretty weak considering some of the other stuff he has been up against.

[Ouch!]

I never saw Casino Royale, but from what I saw in QoS, I took it he was out for revenge. However, it (QoS) is not a direct sequel, nor is it a traditional sequel. It is almost a stand alone movie with the only thing linking it to CR is the Vesper sub-plot. I was disappointed that QoS had no real plot. It wants you to watch the next Bond film that will hopefully address the big question, "what the smurf is the Quantum of Solace?"

Quantum is very clearly the organization of which both Mr. White and Dominic Greene were members--an organization that seems to have not only a significant hand in dirty politics in South America, but also in Africa (as shown in Casino Royale). I think it's fair that we only know that much right now. Telling us everything too soon would be disappointing. As far as what exactly is "Quantum of Solace," the answer is the title of one of the short stories in For Your Eyes Only, the ninth Bond novel. It referred to a relationship between two individuals, which was reflected in the movie with Bond's peculiar relationship with Camille (and I doubt we've seen the last of her).

Also, I don't think it's fair for you to say Quantum of Solace is a stand-alone movie if you've not seen Casino Royale. I really can't imagine watching one without the other. Seems a little silly, actually.

As far as the plot being a bridge, like I said, that's not bothering me, nor is that we know relatively little about Quantum so far. I don't like it when suddenly we know everything about an organization, and I don't mind a little bit of exposition for it. This movie was more about Bond as a character (something a bit unconventional for Bond movies, I'll admit) than it was about taking down the BIG BAD GUY, and I'm fine with that. Given what Bond movies have been in the past, I can understand why people might be dissatisfied with this, but, then again, I've been dissatisfied with Bond movies for a long, long time.

[Del Murder]

Revealing information a bit at a time is fine for a TV show where you can tune in every week, but when you have 3-4 movies max to tell a story and they come years apart it is sort of disappointing to not get more than what we learned in Quantum. If this movie had more of the traditional Bond elements than it did I would probably not be as disappointed in this aspect of it. How could we not have any input from Q branch, for example?

[Ouch!]

Revealing information a bit at a time is fine for a TV show where you can tune in every week, but when you have 3-4 movies max to tell a story and they come years apart it is sort of disappointing to not get more than what we learned in Quantum. If this movie had more of the traditional Bond elements than it did I would probably not be as disappointed in this aspect of it. How could we not have any input from Q branch, for example?

I think the Q Branch, specifically as we know it, has been retired from this incarnation of Bond. They're making a point of having no crazy Bond gadgets. I see how this disappoints some. I welcome it. I agree that the wait between movies can make it a little annoying that everything is revealed so slowly, but I think Daniel Craig is signed on for three more movies (it was originally Casino Royale +3, but it got extended just before QoS came out). I think that's enough for this pacing to work and have QoS be the only "slow" movie.

[Nice]

Dude no one is debating whether QoS was a good movie or not, because it was a good movie. However, it was not a good Bond film because although it attempts to move away from the traditional Bond, it didn't deliver what I consider to be a satisfying second installment for Craig's lineup of Bond flicks.

I understand your point of pacing and sure, that works for some movies, but QoS is to slow! Here's the plot if you don't believe me, (SPOILER)Bond learns of a secret organization, he travels to Haiti in pursuit of a turned agent, meets up with a chick, saves her, flees somewhere meets some guy and heads to South America and sleeps with one chick, meets chick #1 and confusing things happen, guy he meets dies. Ends up in the desert, explosions, omg its the climax already!?! Movie's primary villains are all killed. What's next, a bid to destroy all the soda's in Europe and sell it to them at an outrageous price?

Dude that plot, was weak, even for a soft/filler/middle/slow movie. This is the Bond series we're talking about. The same people that saw the Bourne series are watching this and they are taking note that its not as good.

[The Fat Bioware Nerd]

I'm not gonna see Quantum of Solace at the theater because it probably sucks. Do you guys remember when GoldenEye was released in Christmas 1995? GoldenEye was pretty good despite Pierce Brosnan. Then two years later the sequel came out in 1997 and it sucked.

What do GoldenEye and Casino Royale have in common? Both films were directed by Martin Campbell. I think Martin Campbell is the only guy who can make good Bond films these days.

[Social Moon Firesky]

Quantum of Solace is not as good as Casino Royale.

That's all that really needs to be said about it, IMHO.