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    Uh, sorry, but I can't go along with this theory at all. :/


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    The flaw in your argument FE is that not once has any of the Ivalice titles have ever hinted that reincarnation is an actual part of the cosmology of its world. FFTactics even showed the land of the dead and it was very Mesopotamian/Shinto rather than Buddhist or Hindu.

    We know their is an underworld, we know the spirits of the dead can be seen and return in places where the Mist is thick, we know they can influence the world of the living and if the theory of the Mist=Dark from VS is true, then we know the Mist has the ability to bring the dead back to life, though they are human no more. Actually reading through the beastiery, its proven the Mist can do this.

    Yet no where is there mention of souls reincarnating. There is no strong evidence in XII to suggest your theory may be true.

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    I thought, thought, and thought again. NO!

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    Future Esthar still exists?

    Why do you only theorize about the good Final Fantasies

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    Because these are the only ones which has mysteries,duh.
    Ãnyway I prefer my other theory concerning Vaan.I am not that sure on this one.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    the thing about vaan is he's ordinary. he's just some bloke, a civilian victim of the war and poverty. he isn't some big magic hero, with legends or destiny. he's just a good guy who wanted adventure and got it and along the way he helped out Ashe, the heroine, all though at times she doesn't seem like one.
    Thats what i like about Vaan, he's an everyman in comparison to the brooding hero's (cloud and squall), or those with mysteries and hidden secrets (tidus and Zidane)
    it was an interesting way to go
    ...It is because there is a limit to time that we wish for nights that never dawn.
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    He is Vaan Solidor,elder brother of Reks Solidor and heir to the throne of Arcadia.But since he became amnesic along with Reks and Vayne was rejected,the younger brother Larsa became emperor.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    ha ur funny, u must have too much time on your hands honey, but don't worry at least you've got a great, if not a little random, imagination
    ...It is because there is a limit to time that we wish for nights that never dawn.
    Eternity is just an empty illusion and is why feelings of being able to believe in one another are born...
    Remember that well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar View Post
    He is Vaan Solidor,elder brother of Reks Solidor and heir to the throne of Arcadia.But since he became amnesic along with Reks and Vayne was rejected,the younger brother Larsa became emperor.
    The game uncategorically states that there were 4 male sons of the Emperor. There were two unnamed brothers, both older than Vayne, Vayne himself, and Larsa. Seeing that both Reks and Vaan are both younger than Vayne, this means that the point you have just raised has no substance, as it flies against the facts provided within the game.

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    To further this point, the Ultimania has Vayne's age listed at about 27, while Vaan's is clearly stated as 17. The story places emphasis that Penelo and Vaan knew each other as children and goes so far as to have a picture of the two as kids on the streets of Rabanastre

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    There is no real evidence to suggest Vaan or Reks have amnesia, or some magical force that made them somehow not age since that is an ability that only the Occurians and the dead have. There is no evidence to suggest that Reks or Vaan are Occurians or dead, so lets not go there...

    The game and Ultimania directly tells you that Vaan and Reks parents (I would like to point out that it refers to both of them) died from the plague while Vaan was a 12 years old. Reks and Penelo's family took care of Vaan until Reks joined the military and Penelo's parent died as well. Vayne and Larsa's father is alive and well until about halfway through the game.

    Your theory contradicts the Ultimania.

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    The theory is not important to the storyline anyways.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    You know a book on Logic and the Scientific Method would do wonders right about now.
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    New arbitrary theory: Vaan, Rasler and Vayne are actually the Holy Trinity. Vayne is the Father (all-powerful), Rasler is the Son (martyred for his people), and Vaan is the Holy Spirit (proven by his ability to see the Occurias' illusory "ghost" of Rasler, which was only intended for Ashe).

    This theory is based on virtually nothing and makes no real sense, but I stand by it absolutely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big D View Post
    This theory is based on virtually nothing and makes no real sense, but I stand by it absolutely
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    Rasler died on Nalbina which holds one of the nethicite shards (midlight?).
    Since this placed was filled with mist it´s not dificult to have his soul going to the mines and then to she Garasmythway sewers ending on Lowtown.The same happened to all of the dead inhabitants.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Regards,
    Big D

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