Bad Galbadia

[Serapy]

I'm exasperated, seriously! I have explained and offered different perspectives on this to you how many times now?

Irrelevant, because this thread like I said does not focus on Galbadia entirely, but rather the relationship of Galbadia and Ultimecia. You kept talking about the former.

You REFUSE to see anything other than you want to see so why then do you post it on a DISCUSSION board

Because most of your posts are about comparing from real life to FF8, that`s an opinion I can disagree with. They are not facts. Plus your speculation on things from the game don`t seem right, for example: Squall survived the attack in FMV = therefore if Edea gets attacked without that magic shell, she will be likely to survive too. Ultimecia having alternatives to choose, she`s not affected if Matron dies, etc etc.

if you will pointedly ignore and call anyone who disagrees with your deeply flawed and ignorant perceptions wrong?

I`ve agreed with certain people on this forums over the years, we've had ups and downs. Me pointing at everybody claiming they are all wrong is not logical.

While I don`t agree with most of your posts, simply because the connection of your speculation and the facts from the game don`t match. I`ve explained this in most of my posts when replying to you.

I am willing to be proven wrong by you or by square on my perceptions of FFVIII,

Now this is a good time to develop your theory as why you think the game is straightforward. I`ve asked you to do so about 3 times now and you still haven`t done it. It merely was to show that the game is actually not straightforward. When a game has been proven straightforward, the connections of speculations and facts from the game cannot be proven either. Only SquareEnix knows.

however I believe even if Square sent the actual team behind FFVIII with translators to you and they told you face to face your perceptions and theories are worthless and full of it you would insist they are wrong!

That`s just illogical. If Square has made corrections, then I'll be delighted to hear them. I admire SquareSoft for making a fantastic game like FF8. Square has made FF8, so claiming that they are wrong doesn`t make sense. The reason why I made theories was because that the game lacked something (i.e. lack of information about Ultimecia) and the fact that it`s not straightforward.

You asked why Ultimecia took over Gabaldia

Yes.

you asked why Gabaldia's flag is everywhere

I never mentioned that question in my first post. I merely added the pictures of the symbol from the FMVs and some game shots because they are not easy to find in run-time (playing on TV without pause/rewind/forward/etc functions). I showed the pictures mainly to show people what they haven`t seen before, probably not all people but definitely some.

when really you don't want answers you want to project your answers on to us regardless of the fact that you've been proven illogical and wrong in so many ways in the past.

Nope.

Seriously, I'm gonna leave you with your delusions. Let me say one thing however, before theorizing about FFVIII and it's mythical relativity to greek myths ect go study modern history, learn about dictatorships and things like that, consider your own questions you have asked here because if you had an inkling of common sense you'd know I've stated many true facts as to the reasons why I said what I said.

I already have done.

Galbadia is not "evil". They are just a country controlled by a corrupt government. I'm with Iceglow with this. She took over Galbadia cause they were the easiest to manipulate and had the next strongest military that would allow her to attack Esthar and in the confusion; release Adel from her prison. Hell, due to Galbadia's strong connections to the Garden, she was even able to take control of a third of SeeD's military power and destroy them from within.

If Galbadia and Ultimecia did exist in real life, some people will say they are evil. I`m talking about from a player`s standpoint. As you may already be aware, my English is not that good (my 3rd language), so my mistake if I didn`t use the correct word. The reason why I used the 'Evil' word, according to my Cambridge Dictionary, it states:

"immoral, cruel, or very unpleasant."

Was Ultimecia some sort of immoral? I think so, because her wrong doings were not within FF8 society`s standards of acceptable, honest and moral behaviour; morally wrong.

Was she cruel and unpleasant? Yes. She has killed people and has caused pain and damage towards people and buildings. Her dialogues seemed unpleasant too.

Of course, Ultimecia is more evil than Galbadia.

Either way, she`s evil or bad, whatever the general term is.

This game shouldn`t be over-complicated. Squall is on the "good" side, including Rinoa and others.
Ultimecia is on the "bad" side, hence ... it`s obvious that she chose Galbadia. That`s all.

And I still believe that it doesn`t matter if Galbadia is the easiest thing to manipulate because Ultimecia is a powerful being, she can simply manipulate anything. She`s from the future, nobody could kill her under normal circumstances, there`s no reason for her to become paranoid. She was very angry when ever went wrong.