I love it. I like v4.0, but it feels...incomplete. v3.5 is where its at! Thankfully, a good friend of mine who really introduced me into the game lives about two minutes away, so we call and go like that.
EDIT-And we always stay in character, I'll even risk my life (in game, of course) if it requires me to stay in character.
:P Never would have guessed by your name.Originally Posted by Cyric
4e just doesn't have the options 3e has right now, but when they have more time to release more books, it will improve. I find it to be a superior system on a number of levels, although I do admit there's a lot less you can do with it.
I find that the streamlined system in 4.0 lets you focus more on role-playing, if not mechanical character customization.
My group isn't even going to bother with 4th Edition. Our GOD already has at least 15-20 books for 3 and 3.5, so switching to 4E is going to cost him a fortune.
Aside from that, none of the other players really like the idea of switching because everybody's saying "It's just tabletop WoW."
I hear tabletop WoW bandied around a lot and I can certifiably tell you that anyone who says that has no idea what they're talking about.My group isn't even going to bother with 4th Edition. Our GOD already has at least 15-20 books for 3 and 3.5, so switching to 4E is going to cost him a fortune.
Aside from that, none of the other players really like the idea of switching because everybody's saying "It's just tabletop WoW."
I can see why people make those parallels, but really the game has always been what you make of it. The '4E=WoW' thing is silly. While, like I said, there are some MMO-like changes made, they don't change the game so much that it's unrecognizable as D&D.
I prefer 3.5 but I do concede that 4E has some pretty good ideas behind it.
A lot of it is because 4e adapted some MMO concepts that work pretty well to it's system, just as it adapts a number of other concepts from other such games that work. It still uses them in ways that work for the game itself.
V4.0 is actually too balanced, all characters feel the same and if focuses around combat too much. =/
Most of our D&D games basically consisted of us finding more and more inventive ways of cheating. Quite often they would end with the GM saying we were all destroyed due to a passing laser beam.
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I've never played D&D (unless you count Baldur's Gate, which you don't), although I wouldn't mind trying. I've skimmed through some of the books and it seems like fun.
While characters use the same construction, mechanically, their power-sets are incredibly different and they play as such. It doesn't look like much on paper, but in practice it's incredibly effectively executed with each character having their own specialization and play-style.
Also, 4e has more and better presented rules on out-of-combat interaction than any D&D edition to date. It also has one of the best DMGs around, a large portion of which is NOT focused all on combat. 4e is too combat-focused is just plain incorrect.
I always thought D&D was focused on combat, but that's the point... You want to have awesome action sequences between heroes and villains or monsters.
I never thought it was that big a deal that combat and magic were a huge part of the PHB because, well that's why I played D&D. The non-weapon proficiency system in 2e was meh, but when skills were introduced in 3.0 it was awesome! Skills gave so much extra depth to the game.
Anyway yeah...
Have played and still play with a large chunk of my friends. We have actually played just about any variant or edition you can think of, including D20 Modern. It's fun and a great mental exercise in building characters and stories if you play how I do.
I see the premise behind 4e, but I vastly prefer 3.5 because it is infinitely easier to make your own class in 3.5, and I found the systems in 4e a bit too in-depth. I'm a big fan of making up classes, races, and mechanics because it makes the bad guy seem a lot more epic when no one else can do what he does.
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