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    absolutely haram Recognized Member Madame Adequate's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubah View Post
    What is the appeal of power? Who would be a powerful man? No one I would look up to I'm sure. There are plenty of other paths to money, like sticking in engineering. I'm sure I'm corruptible, but this situation you're describing is not the way to go about it.
    To shape the world to how one believes it should be? That's why I want power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laddy View Post
    Yeah, MILFy, it's all pure fun. I may not be a 'great' person but I feel I'm decent enough. I've done the right thing, I sacrifice my time to help people if need be, I'm far from incorruptable, but I feel I'm decent enough.
    Right. You've sacrificed your time. Anyone does that. It's good, but it's petty. We're talking about overall here - would you still sacrifice your time to see justice done if you were in a hurry to say goodbye to a dying friend? We're not put in extreme circumstances so nobody knows what their morality really is. When a bomb goes off, and there are injured people, and you have to decide whether to run away in case there's radiation or gas or something, or stay and try and help - when the fascists take power and you risk prison, beating, or death, will you still stand up for freedom and equality - that is when you see whether or not you're good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF View Post
    saying "I am incorruptable"
    Come off it MILFord, quit putting words in people's mouths. Nobody ever said "incorruptable". Personally I never pretended to be a lovely lovely person. But the one thing I can always count on myself to do is to make the right choice when it really matters. I've always done that, and I will always continue to. It's strongest thing about me. Of course it isn't completely infallable but if it's the best thing I have, I'm not going to let it go easily. That's all I meant.
    That's sort of my point. Everyone is giving such petty reasons as to why they're nice good people. It's EASY to give a hobo five dollars when you're not dressed in rags yourself. It's EASY to give a couple of hours a week to a charity when you're safe, secure, prosperous, and loved. I picked out rubah's homework example because it's a pretty good instance of what I mean. Is it an example of good, fairness, and honesty? Yes. Is it of any real consqeunce? Not in moral terms. Being a good person in day-to-day, average lives is good, it's laudable, and it should be encouraged. But it only proves that you're not psychopathic enough to contravene social norms and mores. We in the modern developed world just don't encounter the situations which sort this stuff out. I don't know if I'm good, because I've never had a gun pointed at my head.

    I'm not saying anyone here is good or bad, I'm saying few people know.
    Last edited by Madame Adequate; 11-30-2008 at 08:38 PM.

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