Piracy?

[Carl the Llama]

Well I have a question, a friend of mine owns the wheel of time series of books (after my recomending them to her) but I was speaking with her about how far she had gotten and she said she was on book 5 already (and she is an incredibly slow reader like 1 book over a month) and I asked her how she could read the books so fast and she said to me she downloaded the audio version of the books, now me I hate Piracy ill not watch any priate dvd ect. and I expressed my displeasure at her downloading the audio books and she said that since she owned the books what she is doing is not piracy and I disagree.

What do you think?

[Jessweeee♪]

It's the same as asking someone else to read the books she bought out loud to her if you ask me :P


I wouldn't have a guilty conscience anyway.

[Carl the Llama]

Except the audio books cost £26 - £35 per book on paperback its £7.99

[Jessweeee♪]

Wouldn't make a difference to me, but maybe that's just me :\

[Araciel]

I always thought piracy was if you redistributed bootlegs of copyrighted material. That is to say if someone were to download and then SELL the books.

Although illegally downloading is still bad, I don't categorize it as on the same level of my definition of piracy.

[Momiji]

It's really your call. I have nothing against 'illegal' downloading (aka filesharing). Other people do. However, when people sell their 'illegally' downloaded materials for monetary gain, that's where I draw the line.

[Balzac]

If she be sailin' the seven seas with a peg leg, a parrot and an eye patch, then she be a pirate!

[Rantz]

I'm almost sure it's technically illegal, but it's fairly morally sound to me.

[XxSephirothxX]

The audio recording of a book is not the same thing as the book. And even if she owned the audio version, downloading it is still illegal.

But who cares?

[Nice]

What she did is piracy. What's the point, I mean what are the odds of her being arrested for an audio book downloading? I don't really care about piracy because those rules aren't enforced, so they're kind of pointless.

[Jessweeee♪]

[Carl the Llama]

Im not argueing it for her to be arrested im argueing it because its just plain wrong, say for instance you make a song and decided to sell it as a single that - from the reaction of most of the people here - instead of buy the song they decided to download it, it equates to people takeing money out of your own wallet. its like haveing an awesome collection of rare games and haveing someone laugh at you because they never bothered to fork out the cash just to play it.

Each time someone downloads a song a movie or anything they are just raiseing the price of the item for the hard working people who DO spend the money.

Piracy is illigal for a reason, technacally or not.

Now this is just plain wrong, Fileshareing is piracy for the simple fact that the person didnt buy the file, think about what would happen if more and more people shared, eventually nothing would be sold, therefore the product would stop getting made fileshareing will eventually lead to recession, jobs lost ect... its an endless spiral of recession, more people share less people pay prices raise so the product can make some profit, less people buy as item's become to expencive... dont you see this will happen the more people fileshare.

What she did is piracy. What's the point, I mean what are the odds of her being arrested for an audio book downloading? I don't really care about piracy because those rules aren't enforced, so they're kind of pointless.

IMHO nothing does get done about it because if somthing was done then 90% of the virtual population would lhave to be arrested.

[Jessweeee♪]

Piracy would be downloading the book, then selling it. What she did was illegal probably, but not piracy :P

This won't be a problem once the internet as we know it is gone.

[Carl the Llama]

pi⋅ra⋅cy
   /ˈpaɪrəsi/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [pahy-ruh-see] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -cies.
1. practice of a pirate; robbery or illegal violence at sea.
2. the unauthorized reproduction or use of a copyrighted book, recording, television program, patented invention, trademarked product, etc.: The record industry is beset with piracy.

[Balzac]

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