Eyes on Final Fantasy: Posting Activity History

[Loony BoB]

Regarding making me pay for a new forum: I wouldn't need to. The only thing I'd need to pay for is a domain, and that's dirt cheap. I have spare vBulletin licences that aren't being used, and I know people who can provide serverspace on the cheap/free side in the short term at least. As for chatroom stuff, I already pay for #eoff's IRC server so it wouldn't change a thing there either. I'm not saying I'm going to do all of this (nor am I saying I won't, but I haven't made plans!), but I am saying that it's possible and it wouldn't cause me any major problems.

For all those saying we need to drive EoFF into the ground, to do this we would all need to stop posting. Now, that's unlikely to happen no matter how hard we try. Why? Because they can recruit their own moderators from the memberbase that DO want to stay at EoFF (I'm sure dozens of regulars including those posting in this thread saying we should move would jump at such an opportunity). We may have most of the big posters but do we have all the casual browsers of the frontsite? How much of an impact do the regulars have on revenue, anyway? Probably crap all, because the regulars aren't the ones clicking the links! So the owners would still get paid despite us leaving. EoFF would not be driven to the ground, so this plan would ultimately fail.

Psy - I'll look into those stats for you. I have a lot on today at work but I think I should find the time within the next week, if not 24 hours.

I would like to point out that regardless of the effects of Cid selling the site, he didn't screw it over - he sold it. Because he needed the money, and he created it and made it what it is today, and without him creating this forum, chances are few of us would know each other and hell, even Fool's Gold probably wouldn't exist. He just had finished his time as owner, and while the new owner wasn't ideal, he sold it in the hope that the new owner would still be good. Unfortunately things didn't turn out so well, but that's the fault of the new owners, not the old ones. I can't thank Cid enough for making this site because it's inevitably lead to massive changes in my life.

Social networking, to me, is futile because if people wanted social networking do you really think they'd do it here? The main thing you want in social networking sites is for all the people you know to be registered on it. Everyone knows that more of the people they know themselves are likely to be on Facebook than a random gaming site, so yeah.

The only real reason I would go to a different forum created by ourselves is so we could call it our own, not to get rid of EoFF which still is regarded as home to me on the internet. I would never expect the new site to be a replacement on an immediate basis but more of a side-project with more freedom and relevant ownership. If enough people came, it could be a new beginning, but not an out-and-out replacement as this place will likely continue, if in a downwards spiral, so be it.

I imagine a few people would rather drop dead than go to a forum run by myself, though. >=P

[Jiro]

This is the only forum I've ever been active on, and all of this talk is making me sad
Though there have been some good ideas in this thread, and I hope we can find a way to prolong the site. We're not that doomed, are we?

[Goldenboko]

I'm sure you'd get more then you running the site.

If it gets bad enough, I say sabotage

Anyway in a more serious note, can't you somehow check to see if the revenue has been going down like the activity? I'd assume they're pretty directly correlated. If so, we could always just wait it out, working on a side-project, until the site is no longer profitable, and the owners will just want to sell the domain? Then we could just start really working on retooling Eyes on, maybe incorporating things from the side project?

[Loony BoB]

I'm sure you'd get more then you running the site.

Owned by myself and run by many, but the same general idea applies. This is the #1 reason most people don't really want to leave EoFF. Is that ironic? That people who dislike the leadership at one site don't want to have to choose a leader for another site because there will always be people unhappy at the decision? I don't know. But it's true, no matter who makes a spinoff site, outside of RSL there will probably always be people who aren't too happy with it all.

Personally if I was to own a new site then I'd probably run it slightly differently than EoFF is currently run, and I'm sure every forums staffer knows what would change and would hate me for it. I don't want to be the leader that people (people I have a lot of respect for, too) don't want leading, that's why I'm not keen on being the leader at all.

EDIT: We can't check revenue because, er, we don't own the site etc. Revenue is not our concern.

EDIT: Haha, FG is blocked at my work.

[demondude]

Just do something. :kaocry:

[Jiro]

Just do something. :kaocry:

I want to grow apart from the site, not have it taken away from me

[Goldenboko]

I kinda meant like, link hits or something, so we can extrapolate if revenue is going down xD

The idea of not doing something out of fear of people not liking it is bad D: Personally, some kind of leadership from an owner would be better then the none at all we've gotten xD

[Markus. D]

:3

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[Tavrobel]

Personally, some kind of leadership from an owner would be better then the none at all we've gotten xD

Now, now, now, GB. We should be fair. Our owners are very active leaders! Why, just recently, they decided to update the vB version without informing us at all, thus causing just as many problems as they've done in the past with unplanned and uninformed updates, and forcing people to replace sprites and images again. Hey, why, sometime in October, they had that big-giant-mega-update that rolled stuff back by about a month! We should be fair. The owners are very active by doing whatever they want and not informing us.

[Psychotic]

Eyes off FF: v2.0

I was the best damn mod EoffFF ever had!

[The Man]

Like I said, the best solution is to email the owners and convince them how their strategy for the forum is destroying it.

Something else I noticed: The server is loading horrendously slowly for guests. That's probably driving new registrations down right there.

[rubah]

I find this thread incredibly dull having gone over the subject matter too many times with too many people, but once you all decide what to do, I will put my best effort into it wholeheartedly so long as it isn't retarded.

[Momiji]

I find this thread incredibly dull having gone over the subject matter too many times with too many people, but once you all decide what to do, I will put my best effort into it wholeheartedly so long as it isn't retarded.

Seconded. It's not like my ideas have never been expressed before, and my opinion means nothing anyway.

[Shorty]

What if we set up an account someplace for members to donate? There's a chance, if members were dedicated, we could try to buy the site. I don't know if this would help, really, but as it seems that most people are displeased with the owners already, it couldn't hurt to try.

All of this makes me sad, too. I was inactive for a long time, and have only recently been trying to be a better member. What if mass emails were sent out to already-registered members? Some email every day or something. Or every week. Birthdays, what's happening. Many people may have forgotten this site, and seeing a link in their inbox may remind them to come back and check out what's happening.

What's the worst that would happen? They'd scoff at the email and delete it.

Maybe encourage people to come to #eoff more? I always see the same people there. It might help bump up posting.

[Rye]

That email idea is really good!