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    Sheesh, how many times has Bill Adama cried or had a breakdown this season? Enough is enough! That paint throwing scene was just too unnecessary and over the top. I hope this is the last we've seen of teeth blaring weeping Adama. I very much like him most of the time,but when he does his whole wailing/breaking down thing, I think Olmos waaaay overacts. Sucks you right out of the moment and makes you remember that what you're watching is an acting performing a scene.

    Anyway, I love little character moments, but I don't want an episode after episode of ALL character moments. Which is what I feel is what we've been getting for the past few episodes. But I guess they'll make up for it in the 3 hour finale. So even though I want more action and questions being answered, I trust that they know what they're doing by pacing the season this way. But it is making me antsy.

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    I've been feeling the same way Miriel, on all fronts. Well, I don't think Olmos overacts, but I think that Adama has broken down so much recently that it becomes a cliche. It's not so much that he breaks down so much as he puts it back together again.

    I'm fairly sure that the next ep is going to be amazing and that the finale will be unbelievable. I can't wait.

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    The worst thing about Bill Adama breaking down every episode is it just doesn't strike me as something the old man would do. In the first couple of seasons when all the others were giving up and breaking down he stayed strong and kept them focused on the goal of surviving he didn't truly believe in the earth prophecy but he used it as a way to keep morale high and as a goal because really he had nothing else to achieve. Ok so they find earth and it's a nuked wasteland but he has a goal now which is to find a home for them. Now he's just crying and breaking down constantly it doesn't fit with who Bill Adama is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceglow View Post
    The worst thing about Bill Adama breaking down every episode is it just doesn't strike me as something the old man would do. In the first couple of seasons when all the others were giving up and breaking down he stayed strong and kept them focused on the goal of surviving he didn't truly believe in the earth prophecy but he used it as a way to keep morale high and as a goal because really he had nothing else to achieve. Ok so they find earth and it's a nuked wasteland but he has a goal now which is to find a home for them. Now he's just crying and breaking down constantly it doesn't fit with who Bill Adama is.
    Personally, I think the fact that it took finding out his best friend is a Cylon, they probably have no chance of finding a new home (seriously, how many habitable planets have they come across in four years?), and that he's going to lose Roslin and the Galactica shows he's one tough son of a smurf. Some may think it's out of character, but I don't feel that way. He feels like he's losing everything he had left that he really cared about with the exception of Apollo lately, as if it weren't hard enough for him to find reasons to keep going. The man's been through a lot and it's (finally) taking it's toll.

    That said, I could do with a few less extended breakdowns on his part. If he's going to do it I'd rather see it be like the one he had when Kara died. That one always seemed to get the grief across to me without over doing it.

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    The breakdowns are perfectly reasonable given is current situation. There's just too many of them.

    Also I feel like this show is stalling until the finale, so it better be damn good.

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    That last episode was, for the most part, epic. At first I was like "Wut more character episodes?" and it built up fairly awesomely.

    But I think it focused on the wrong characters. That one random scene with Helo and Athena was just oddly placed. I think they wanted an episode twice as long for this stuff and couldn't fit everything in.

    I also don't understand why Adama was suddenly motivated to go after Hera. That seemed to come out of nowhere. I mean yeah there was knowing where she was at all, but it had seemed like more than that before, and we never saw why he went to ask Anders about it in the first place. Where the sudden trust from? Or is it desperation? etc.

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    Maybe he wanted one last battle for Galactica. I like these episodes and all, but I feel like this whole season has just been buildup for the three hour finale. I hope it delivers.

    I did like the flashbacks and found it amusing that Baltar had this crazy old Irish father.

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    Yeah that's fair, Del, remembering what Adama said to Tigh last episode about Galactica. And I also agree that the whole thing has built up to the finale, which puts a lot of pressure on the finale xD But if they pull it off.

    Baltar's dad was totally genius. I loved how crazy he was and how he totally flirted with young women.

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    I thought it was outrageously unrealistic for half the crew to volunteer to go on an admittedly suicidal mission to retrieve Hera. I mean, Hot Dog? That guy has a kid! I doubt the crew of Galactica knows of the dreams about Hera that Roslin/Six/Athena were having, or how the cylons see Hera as the key to their future survival. This is all information that has been contained to the inner circle. So while I understand people like Lee and Starbuck and Roslin volunteering to go. Why the hell would anyone else want to? Unless they're just sick of living? They want to do SOMETHING regardless of whether they care about the cause or not?

    It was a great dramatic moment. I like it when Adama takes charge like that. And it was sweet to see Roslin hobble over. And for a second I thought Baltar was finally gonna make his grand selfless gesture. But it just rang false. Especially when the doctor attempted to volunteer. Are you kidding me? The doc is no fool, he knows his own worth and his character would have known that it would be better not to volunteer. Did he really need to have that moment where he's told by Adama not to go? That just seemed so out of character to me.

    I'm just irritated in general that they basically wasted half a season making a sloooow snail's pace crawl towards the finish. I have no doubt that the 3 hour finale is gonna be great, but c'mon. There's something to be said about pacing.

    It's like having a 10 course meal where the first 9 courses consist of various bite-size pieces of salad, and the final course is a 15 pound steak.

    I would have preferred consistently strong episodes and a 1 hour finale rather than a bunch of weak episodes followed by a great 3 hour episode.

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    As for his decision to go after Hera, I think it was just the impact of the realization of how many people had been left behind. He realized all those pictures belonged to people who were never coming back, but Hera still had a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miriel View Post
    I thought it was outrageously unrealistic for half the crew to volunteer to go on an admittedly suicidal mission to retrieve Hera.
    I think it makes sense in that some of these people are probably friends with Helo and Athena and want to get the kid back, not to mention some people would just want to stick it to the Cylons that still want them all dead. Taking out their base of operations would be no small accomplishment if nothing else, and probably ensure the fleet more safety than if they just tried to keep running. Some probably have simply lost hope though. They're backs are more against the wall than ever. They have no home, nowhere to go, and the other Cylons will still hunt them down if given the chance. Might as well go out fighting and give the Galactica a proper send off.

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    ARE YOU GUYS READING FOR THIS ????

    Cause I'm totally not!

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    Best part about the series finale: Tori dies and nobody gives a crap at all.

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    I can't begin to express my utter disappointment in the ending of the finale. It's not like I loved the episode, I didn't. I felt like there were a lot of cop-outs. But there were some truly lovely moments. Pretty much cried during all the of the goodbyes and send offs.

    Roslin/Doc Coddle, Bill & Lee, Bill & Kara with the "nothing but the rain" exchange, Kara & Sam "see you on the other side", Bill putting his ring on Laura's finger - oh my gooood. Also loved the interaction between Caprica and Baltar. Especially at the end when he broke down after commenting that he knew something about farming. That was lovely. Also nice to see Helo/Athena/Hera happy together for once. And the deaths of Boomer and Tori were satisfying too.

    But the whole, heeeeeey, skip 150,000 into the future and you have our civilization! What the smurf is that ? Seriously? That's the kind of ending that people have speculated about for years and I always dismissed it as being too easy. I thought the whole, abandon technology and spread out across the globe was a dumb as smurf idea, but if they had left it at that, it might not have been so terrible. Like if they ended the show following the scene with Bill next to Roslin's grave. But the fast forward to our time was so intensely cheesy and hokey and WRONG.

    Ugh. Horrible.

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    For me, in a nutshell:

    AMAZING...A-FREAKIN-MAZING!....but what happened to Kara Thrace?

    I'll tell you this though for the first half of it i was pretty much shakin and hopin that the usual fav's would make it!





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