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    Quote Originally Posted by The Turk View Post
    Could be the reason. Or perhaps his girly long hair gets in his eyes and blinds him?

    Sephiroth doesn't kill Zack, he wounds him however.

    (SPOILER)In VII Zack is gunned down by three shinra soldiers. For some reason they don't shoot Cloud. Either because they thought he was as good as dead or that bullets are expensive. In the anime movie (the name of which escapes me) he is shot with a sniper rifle. Lastly in Crisis Core he fights a lot of soldiers but eventually the numbers are too much for him. Wuss.
    The anime was called Last Order. YouTube - Final Fantasy Last Order part 3
    (It just has the scene where Zack dies and the movie credits.)

    I thought Sephiroth killed Tseng too?

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    Tseng lived.

    Also, Jesus was only God's son in Christianity. In Islam, he's just another prophet. And more people believe in Islam than Christianity!
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    It's only a matter of time before Christianity and Islam, along with the other less similar faiths, become the myths and we invent another religion to take their place.

    My definition of a god would be simply that a god is an extremely powerful being. Emphasis on "being" rather than "human". After one transcends his human nature, one could be considered a god by me. This includes people like the Buddha, other enlightened fellows, Jesus etc. Now, these guys were all nicey nicey and everything, so maybe I should consider that in my definition of a god. But I don't because that's a crap idea. You know who isn't nicey nicey? God. Who else? Pretty much all the other gods we've invented. Seriously, how masochistic is the human race?

    Anyway. Sephiroth became godlike. Just because a human could beat him up, or just because some people survived meeting him does not take anything away from the fact that he did become more than what he was as a human.

    For me, there is no God and there are no gods, there are merely godlike beings. Rather than constantly refer to these beings as godlike beings, it is simpler to call them gods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Tseng lived.

    Also, Jesus was only God's son in Christianity. In Islam, he's just another prophet. And more people believe in Islam than Christianity!
    Has Islam already surpassed Christianity in number of believers? damn, I thought it still had a fair amount of time to catch up.

    Also Sephiroth is nowhere near as cool as Hamlet.
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    See I like to pretend that AC was just a fan fiction and not cannon so in my world Tseng does die.

    The confusion came from a mistranslation. On the PS Elena accusing Cloud of "doing in my bis" but in the Japanese version it is said he lived. It's corrected again on the PC version where Elena says "you messed up my boss".

    I think the story works out better with Tseng dead as it makes his final meeting with Cloud's group and his scene where he offers to take Elena out for dinner more poignant and sad. Plus it gives Sephiroth an extra frag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Also, Jesus was only God's son in Christianity. In Islam, he's just another prophet. And more people believe in Islam than Christianity!
    OOC:There really aren't definitive numbers for this, as there are likely a large number of people who claim Christianity/Islam yet would not be called practitioners of the respective faith, and some who are not accounted for in reports due to being in countries that may be difficult to reach for those trying to tabulate the numbers. Most estimates I've read place Christianity at approximately 600 million more followers than Islam though.


    Anyhoo, I don't think that Sephiroth achieved godhood, at least not according to my definition or the definitions of most of the religions I know of. I would probably agree that he had reached around to demigod status maybe, such as Theseus or Perseus of Greek lore.
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    Well we know he wanted to be a god cuz I took a pic.



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    Um, technically Sephiroth doesn't kill Aeris or Shinra, because he was chilling at the North Pole and he got his mummy to do it for him. But he did kill Tifa's father, so he has one at least.

    Sephiroth would have most likely have become godlike if his plan had succeeded and he had absorbed the Lifestream of the entire planet. But the fact that his plan did not work out means that he was not. Remember, most of the power he gained at the end of VII was due to the knowledge he gained in the Lifestream, and his ability to call upon the Planet to do his bidding. But as far as I understand, that is channelling something more powerful through him, and therefore it does not make him a God (kind of how some of the disciples were able to channel God's power to heal individuals).

    Of course, the Planet itself could be considered a God, because it is very powerful and is self-aware. However, the self-awareness could be due to the presence of the Ancients that are in it, who are still self-aware.

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    Sephiroth is a demi-god. So is Kefka.

    Quote Originally Posted by champagne supernova View Post
    Um, technically Sephiroth doesn't kill Aeris or Shinra, because he was chilling at the North Pole and he got his mummy to do it for him. But he did kill Tifa's father, so he has one at least.
    He was using Jenova's brain-dead body as a host for his consciousness. So technically, he killed Aerith.

    Question: Do you know why Kefka succeeded in destroying the planet?


    Answer: Because the planet didn't fight back.

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