Metal listeners generally know far more about Metal classification than non-metal listeners. I listen to far more music than Metal, sir. When a band states they are a certain style of music, it does not make them right. Many bands poorly classify themselves, either in an attempt to distance themselves from a specific scene, or to pretend that they have done something more original than they actually have. And I will continue to state that music is defined primarily by musicality, and less by lyrics. The fact that you would even argue with me about such a thing is absurd. I never, at any point, said lyrics had nothing to do with it. I merely stated that they have far less to do with classification than does the music. That is simply a fact. Any educated musician, music listeners, etc... will tell you the same thing. Metal-Archives is a far more credible source than any website you can name to counter any such classifications. Many points you have just brought up, I have already answered, such as Amon Amarth being related to Melodic Death Metal. I have already said that, and they are, by definition, a Melodic Death Metal bands. Wintersun have some Folk tendencies, but they are Melodic Death Metal as well. I would associate Unleashed with Vikings over Amon Amarth, or Wintersun any day, but they are NOT Viking Metal, simply because their lyrics deal with such themes. They are Death Metal. And like I said, Ensiferum are not Viking Metal, simply because they would like to state themselves as such. A band like Judas Priest could call themselves Death Metal, but they would be wrong. That argument just does not hold any water. With that, I have made my points several times and I will take my leave of this thread. Good day, sir.